1861 census - Jones

[Raver26]

Andy, in desperation before I start banging my head against that brick wall and the men in white coats come to take me away, could you check the 1861 census to see if Roderick and Jane Jones are in the village of Trefilan where they were both born? I know it is a long shot but right now I can't think of anything else.   

                        Thanks      Dave

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Hi.

I just did a search on the 1861 census for Wales.

There wasn't one Roderick Jones born around 1802 in the whole of Wales!
I couldn't find the right Jane Jones either.

I don't know what to say. It seems to be one of life's cruel mysteries; no much you can do about it.

Andy

[D ap D]

Could well be that the particular area hasn't been transcribed and put online yet....

If you send an email request to Ceredigion library, they might lookup the 1851 census for you - the 51 is indexed, so it shouldn't cost anything. If you find them there, you should be able to work out where they might have been in 61.

D

[davierj]

Hi Dave, is this any good from the 1841 census for Llanbadarn Trefeglwys.............

HO107/1373/5, Enumeration District 12, page5.  Address:   Crofswinter
All surnames Jones, all born in county

Roderick          35          Farmer
Jane                35
Mary                75        Ind
Evan                15
Sarah              13
Mary                11
Margaret           6
Roderick            4
Thomas             4mths

Hope this is the family you're looking for - John is yet to be born?

Cheers Dave   

[Raver26]

Hi Dave, sorry I haven't got back to you sooner but I have been nursing a twisted knee for the last couple of weeks      and didn't feel like doing much on the family history front.

Yep, I think this is them all right,    as John was living at Crosswinter fach, in Llan Trefeg when he was married, in 1872. Also one of the witnesses was Evan Jones, his brother. He wouldn't have been listed in 1841 as he was born about 1846. 'though I have yet to find his birth certificate.

In the 1841 census does it say where abouts in Cardiganshire Roderick and Jane where Born ?

I haven't been able to pick them up in either the 1851 or 1861 census as yet but live in hopes. 

Regards       Dave

[davierj]

Hey Dave,
Sorry about the knee.
Glad it's the right family, I know how difficult the Jones families can be!   It look's as if Mary was Roderick's mother.
Unfortunately the 1841 census only says if a person was born in county or not, it does not go into great detail.   I read the address as 'Crofswinter' which is close enough considering the quality of the transcription.

Cheers Dave

[Raver26]

Thanks Dave, it was just a long shot. Crofswinter could be written the old english way where the first s of a double s is like a f. I looked up Llan Trefeg on the Old Maps site to see if I could spot the farm, but no dice.

I will have to try and find John Jones's birth certificate. As there are 14 John Jones's list as being born in Cardiganshire in 1846 alone the GRO are not much help as they only check the first 6 when there are multiple entries. I will have to try and arrange a trip to Kew some time soon.

Happy hunting      Dave

[familyfinder2]

Thanks a lot for that Andy, I will pass it on to Dave when he gets back from his hols.   

John Jones and Margret Evans where our Great Grand Parents. They married in 1872, at Bethania but they were both living in Llan. Trefeglwys at the time. Any chance of a look up in the 1871 census? We have tried the 1881 but no sign of John Jones.   

                  Regards    Trevor

                   

Hello Raver 26,

I have only just discovered this site.

I realise this is nearly 4 years late (!) but looking at your signature we may well have a connection. A member of "my" Jones family married a Wartsky and they lived in Bethnal Green at the time of the 1901 Census.

Some of the other names you mention in your posts also tally with what I have learned thus far.

A general question please as this is my first post here.

Given that Raver 26 may well have disappeared from the site given the time lapse, is there anyway I can e mail him or my e mail address can be e mailed to him?