Brooke Taylor? Mallallieu?

[mickbirty]

Hi.
I believe, according to my Uncle that somewhere along my Grandmothers side on my Dads side!!! I am related to Tim Brooke Taylor.  Wow!!! The Goodies.
I have been doing research on my tree for some time and found that my Grandmother was Bessie (Betsy) Taylor.  Her father was Joseph Taylor and her mother Elizabeth Ann Mallalieu.
Tim was born Timothy Julian Brooke Taylor on 17-7-1940. His father was Edward Mallalieu Brooke Taylor. Mother was Rachel Frances Brooke Taylor formerly Pawson daughter of the 1883-1885 England centre forward Rev Francis William Pawson again Wow!! They married 12 June 1928.

Edwards father was Herbert Brooke Taylor.

So I think the Mallalieu connection came from my grandmothers mother Elizabeth Ann Mallalieu
 but I cant find a Brooke connection???

I have Herbert in 1881 aged 25 as a visitor in Broughton Salford and he was a solicitor. He was then a Brooke Taylor. 
Then I have him in the 1871 as just 16 and son of the widow Sarah Taylor.

That is where I lose him. Could Herbert have married a Brooke and kids became Brooke Taylor??

Sorry for going on a bit.

Any help would be much appreciated.

[lizdb]

I see in 1881 when Herbert is a Brooke Taylor, that he is not married. Therefore the Brooke bit is unlikely to have come rom any marriage of his.

[lizdb]

Herbert was born Herbert Brooke Taylor

Ovt/Nov/Dec 1855 Bakewell distr ref 7b 479 (on freeBMD)

[lizdb]

Here he is in 1861 with his family 

RG9 2538 54 21

Bakewell (sorry cant read road)

John Taylor 35 Attorney and Solicitor bn Bakewell
Catherine Ann 35 wifebn York
JAne Edith 9
Francis James 8
Alfred Hart 7
Herbert Brooke 5
Arthur George 4
Catherine Ann 2
MAry Gertrude 1
Nelson Major 4mths



all children bn Bakewell

9 children under 10! what hard work

there were also several servants, governess and nursemaid - I should think they needed them

[lizdb]

Here is the family in 1871. Iwonder if lots of the children have left home, though many would be young, or if a lot of them died in childhood illnesses

RG10 3625 46 18
Matlock Street Bakewell (thats what it was ni 1861 too)
John 45 Solicitor bn Bakewell
Catherine A 43 bn Yorkshire
Jane E 19
Francis J 18
Alice J 8
John A 5
Christopher W 4

plus servants etc

[mickbirty]

Thanks for all that. So where is he at 16ish. I have him on the 1871 in Bow Wood Matlock as Herbert Taylor and a farm servant which is obviously wrong.

Then in 1881 as Herbert Brooke Taylor visitor in Salford. Which must be ok as he to is a solicitor, following his Dad.
 

[lizdb]

I dont think the Herbert Taylor you found in 1871 with widowed mum Sarah is him. Apart from the fact that his mum was Catherine, and his dad John was still alive in 1871, that one was a farm labourer. Herbet Brooke Taylor seemed to become a solicitor like his father.

just posting this and I see you have come to the same conclusion!!!

[mickbirty]

Looking at the names of his siblings and children, do you think Brooke was just a middle name.

[Necromancer]

so who did Herbert marry pre-1893 ?

Births Dec 1893   
 
Taylor  Edward Mallalieu B      Bakewell  v7b p770


Doesnt look like the name was intentionally double-barrelled back then .... and this chap waited a while before marrying in 1928 !