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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 17 September 08 15:37 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I think this is a railway uniform. Could the location on the bottom of the photo stand for Kirkcaldy, Northern Railway?

mim

or Northern Region ?

Just found this pic .... (Midland Railway uniform)
No pockets on the jackets but the cap on the right looks similar

http://ingenious.org.uk/See/Transport/Railways/?pageNo=10&s=S1&viewby=images&


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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 17 September 08 16:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Rachel  ;D

Yes, I'm beginning to convince myself it's a Railway uniform of some kind, he has number 22 on his collar - I'm desperate to get home and rescan to see if we can figure out what it says on his cap, because I guess that would probably be very helpful..... and you are indeed correct, leather cuffs!  I was very taken with that point too!  I have to say that I am fairly convinced that the letters after Kirkcaldy are NB - if you look at the R of KIRKCALDY - the leg of the R kicks out whereas the last letter is rounded at the bottom.  I'll double check the original tonight to see if it's maybe just wear/dirt.

I really appreciate everyone's input, thank you so much for your continuing interest :D

Lass x

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 17 September 08 16:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Rachel  ;D

I am fairly convinced that the letters after Kirkcaldy are NB - if you look at the R of KIRKCALDY - the leg of the R kicks out whereas the last letter is rounded at the bottom.  I'll double check the original tonight to see if it's maybe just wear/dirt.


Lass x


Ooooooo YES .... you're right .... it's not the same as the 'R'


Go home IMMEDIATELY !!!!  ;D  ;D  ;D and tell us what else you can find  :D
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 17 September 08 16:40 BST (UK) »
Found some info about the photographer RG Rettie

Robert Gibson Rettie ... trained in Inverness and later Fraserburgh and Stirling ... died in 1925

In May 1884 he bought the photographic studio in Kirkcaldy from John Patrick and by 1894 he had moved to 1, Townsend Place, Kirkcaldy

 Googled ... RG Rettie + photographer  ;D  :D


I was hoping to find out what NB might be   :-\

Found a photo with a coloured mount (by googling Robert Gibson Rettie) and that 'B' is quite clear
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DAWSON, FLYNN, FOLWELL, FORGAN, FORREST, HARRIS, KING, LOOKER,
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 17 September 08 16:46 BST (UK) »
LMAO  ;D  I wish I could have ran home there and then!  Don't worry, couple of hours time and I'll be away, and provided I can sort out the scanning at the right resolution, perhaps I'll have something we can play with!

Thanks for googling the photographer, it's one of those things I meant to do and didn't (smacked hand) so your help is appreciated Rachel!

In the meantime, google has had it's hands full today - I've been looking up all sorts - I started to wonder about the reason for the leather cuffs and can't figure why they might be, any thoughts?  I did find an article relating to the Northamptonshire County Constabulary (unlikely but not impossible I guess) which suggested that the uniform would be similar:

"Early 1900s - early 1950s

Tunics still high necked with numbers on collar, but now have two breast pockets. No belt and only five buttons. The double peaked caps continued in use until the end of the Great War, but after that helmets became the only headgear for Constables and Sergeants, although a different style of helmet, similar to the one in use today, wad adopted. The small badge previously on the front of the caps, however, is retained for the helmet. Inspectors and above wear flat caps similar to today, but still had different tunics."

I need to check, but I suspect this might be a bit late for this picture?

Come on time, pass, I want to go home!!
 
Lass x


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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 17 September 08 19:43 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I think you are right about the N B and as you say probably stands for North Britain.

I found something about the North British Railway at:

http://www.answers.com/North%20British%20Railway

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 17 September 08 20:48 BST (UK) »
Good Evening!

I haven't done a rescan yet, but in the meantime we've taken a very bright light and a magnifying glass to the picture - I am 99.9% certain that the wording on his cap reads 'Motorman'....... doesn't help me much, but might mean something to somebody else??

Hope to be back soon with rescanned pic.

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 17 September 08 22:56 BST (UK) »
Evening all  ;D

Finally got time to sit down and rescan all the pics from this particular album. So here's my chap in high quality 300dpi.

Thanks for all your help and thoughts so far.

Lass x

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 17 September 08 23:02 BST (UK) »
Hi

Could he have Been a Railway Worker ?  ie Engine Driver Ect

Hope this Helps

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Iria
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