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Re: Audley Roads Torquay & Newton Abbot
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 23:33 GMT (UK) »
Dear Brian
Yes I have checked it out and the map is looking good
I have another map see pic below
'Plan of Torquay & Paignton
 Showing Places of Interest
Index to Street
Price 1/- net
Published By SA Baker
Stationer & Bookseller
37 Torwood Street, Torquay

on the back is an advert for Devon General Telephone 63226
No idea on date really
but Audley Park Road is on there and Audley Park School is not mentioned
but the Girls Grammar School built in the 1920s is mentioned.
I think this map is pre 1940s
I wonder if Terry Leaman is about and he can help ?
UK Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
General Information relating to villages of JACKSDALE, PYE HILL & WESTWOOD Notts
Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR, GUILFOYLE, BICKFORD, EPPS, BEAZLEY, DARKE, LANG, QUANT, BLANKENSHIP
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES

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Re: Audley Roads Torquay & Newton Abbot
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 30 October 08 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I've looked into dates and my best estimate is that it is just pre-war.
Reasons:-
Girls Grammar School opened in Shiphay Lane in 1939. (not 1920s)
Audley Park opened in 1938 (why the Grammar school is shown and not Audley Park is a mystery)
Devon General depot was opened in 1931
The new hospital is 1926.

Queensway is very much a much later addition - Not until late 60s possibly early 70s.
Hooper- Torquay & Exbourne
Stevenson- Plymouth & Lincolnshire
Vivian- Cornwood & London

General Torquay local history- OPC for Torquay

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Re: Audley Roads Torquay & Newton Abbot
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 30 October 08 13:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Terry
Its always nice to know these things
mog
UK Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
General Information relating to villages of JACKSDALE, PYE HILL & WESTWOOD Notts
Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR, GUILFOYLE, BICKFORD, EPPS, BEAZLEY, DARKE, LANG, QUANT, BLANKENSHIP
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES

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Re: Audley Roads Torquay & Newton Abbot
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 October 08 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mog and Terry,

Many thanks for the additional map and the estimate of the published date. I have now put the second map on the website.

I have e-mailed Torquay Library tosee what they have to say about the name Audley and St Marychurch Manor.

Must ask if you were born in Torquay why have you become a CheshireMog. I live in Merseyside the bit that was thrown out of Cheshire!!

Thanks to both of you for helping me develop ww.audleyfamilyhistory.com
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Re: Audley Roads Torquay & Newton Abbot
« Reply #13 on: Friday 31 October 08 20:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mog and Terry,

I have just had the following reply from Torquay reference library:

According to Rev Brownlow's book "St Marychurch in Saxon and Roman Times"

"Sir Robert Pole sums up the history of St Marychurch in the following words:-

"Robert de St Mary Church held the same in King Henry 2 tyme from which it descended unto Amicia de St Mary Church, wife of Maurice de Rotomago, anno 27 of Kinge Henry 3; unto whom succeeded William de Cirencester: and anno 19 of Kinge Edward 3, the Lord James Awdelegh was Lord thereof: from whom, after the death of Nicholas lo Awdelegh, it came unto the Lord Fulk Fitz Warren by Margaret his wife, daughter of James Lord Awdelegh: and soe from Fitz Warren it is descended unto John Earle of Bath, which sold the same unto John Forde of Bagtor, whose son George Forde sold the same unto Sir George Cary of Cockington."”

This is taken from Pole's “Description of Devonshire”. Therefore Lord Awdelegh (Audley) was Lord of the Manor of St Marychurch for a time from 1346.

I don’t know if you have come across the Dictionary of National Biography in your research so far? This multi volume reference work is held by many public libraries and volume 2 p. 929 – 931 has a section on this very early Audley family.

Regarding the Audley Park Housing Estate. This was built in the 1910's but I cannot find in Council Minutes any indication as to why the name was chosen although it does seem likely that the architect, Mr Moore, chose it due to this earlier history.

Regards
Brian
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Re: Audley Roads Torquay & Newton Abbot
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 13 November 08 01:20 GMT (UK) »
Dear Audbr

Sorry have only just found your post - I did not get an email notification for some reason.

I am Cheshiremog originally Cheshirecat - from Lewis Carols - Alice in Wonderland's -  'grinning like a Cheshire Cat' - my father is from Cheshire - and my initials are C.A.T. - and I like cats (more than dogs) so that's about it really.

 I was born in Torquay and my heart lies there and so am in great awe of Terry Leaman who is such a fount of knowledge for that area.

So glad to hear you have made further progress and the maps were of help
- our paths will cross again I am sure.
UK Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
General Information relating to villages of JACKSDALE, PYE HILL & WESTWOOD Notts
Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR, GUILFOYLE, BICKFORD, EPPS, BEAZLEY, DARKE, LANG, QUANT, BLANKENSHIP
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES

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Re: Audley Roads Torquay & Newton Abbot
« Reply #15 on: Friday 14 November 08 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cheshire Mog
I am sure we will meet again
Regards
Brian
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Re: Audley Roads Torquay & Newton Abbot
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 25 April 12 20:08 BST (UK) »
RE YOUR MAP....dating
post 1920 circa 1930 Id guess
 Mrs. Ella Rowcroft  from the Bristol WILLS family, tobacco importers and cigarette manufacturers  gave £100,00 for the building of a new Torbay Hospital* on a green field site at Lawes Bridge, Torquay. She laid the Foundation Stone on 26 June 1926 and the hospital opened to patients in September 1928.

 

Pomeroy in London & Liverpool , Pomery near Launceston Cornwall, Shearer of Thurso, Moore in Colchester and Hornblow in Braintree Essex, Machin in Hackney & Stafford & Cook in Herts, Campbell, Sutherland, Mackay, Brotchie, Gunn in Thurso Caithness. Cadle in South Africa.

researching the Pomeroy Family of Collaton in Newton Ferrers and St Columb in Cornwall

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Re: Audley Roads Torquay & Newton Abbot
« Reply #17 on: Friday 27 April 12 21:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Slightlyfoxed,
Many thanks for the information
Regards
Brian
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