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Re: CRAWFORD-GRISSAM 1902 marriage?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 24 October 08 15:56 BST (UK) »
On reflection could Malshy be a badly written "Martha"?

I have looked at the 1831 census in PRONI and while Hugh's family are indeed enumerated in the RC column, they are right at the bottom of the page and seem to have been misallocated.  Moving them to the Prebyterian column makes the column totals correct so I assume this was an error by the transcriber and they were in fact Presbyterian.  John of Ballygawley was a member of Aghadowey CoI select vestry from 1787 to 1836 and his son Hugh was a member in 1845.

Details on the others:-

John of Partick
Emigrated to Philadelphia - possibly the John Grisson who arrive in US from Liverpool on 6 Feb 1849 on Carnatic aged 20, labourer.
Married Eliza Ann Finlay in Philadelphia Oct 1852, children:-
Mary Ann b. 1855 - married John Bright in Glasgow 1874
Margaret b. 1860 d. 1861 Partick
Margaret b. 21 Mar 1862 Partick b. 1863 Partick
John b. 27 Mar 1865 Partick d. 1866 Partick
John b. 7 Jan 1867 Partick (not with family in 1881 census)
Elizabeth b. 23 Oct 1869 Partick
Hugh b. 24 Apr 1872 Partick d. 1881 Partick
The family lived at 43 Orchard Street, Partick, Scotland from 1861.  John died there on 21 April 1894 and Eliza Ann died in 1896.

William of Ballygawley
Married Nancy Duff 3rd Presbyterian Church Ballymena 9 June 1866. Children:-
Annie b. Partick c1867, d. 3 Aug 1941 in Ballygawley - buried in Aghadowey CoI Churchyard
William b. 28 Mar 1869 in Partick d. 5 Dec 1902 in Ballygawley - buried in Aghadowey CoI Churchyard
Hugh b. 14 July 1873 in Ballygawley d. 23 Oct 1955 in Ballygawley - buried in Aghadowey CoI Churchyard
William and Nancy died in Ballygawley on 8 Oct 1894 and 1 Feb 1902 respectively - both buried in Aghadowey CoI Churchyard.
Annie and Hugh signed the Ulster Covenant - see PRONI website.

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Re: CRAWFORD-GRISSAM 1902 marriage?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 24 October 08 16:03 BST (UK) »
Have come across Malshy/Malsy as a name in Aghadowey/Macosquin area before.

John Grissam (born 7 Jan.1867 Partick) was living in Patrick 1901 with sister Elizabeth and aunt Mary J. Finlay.

Agree with the 1831 census mistakenly listing Hugh & family as R.C.
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Re: CRAWFORD-GRISSAM 1902 marriage?
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Managed to do a look up on the marriage certificate for Sarah Grissam and King Crawford this morning.  Details are as follows:-

Bride: Sarah Grissam, age 22 yrs, Spinster; Occupation - servant; Residence - Blaugh, Coleraine; Father - James Grissam, labourer.

Groom: King Crawford, age 28 yrs, Bachelor; Occupation - labourer; Residence - Ballylease, Agherton; Father - James Crawford, labourer.

Witnesses: Hugh Crawford and Rachel Dunlop.

Sadly this doesn't answer my question as to how Sarah fits into the Aghadowey Grissam family.  Anyone know anything about her father James?

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Re: CRAWFORD-GRISSAM 1902 marriage?
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 16:58 GMT (UK) »
Can't see any James Grissam the correct age to be this Sarah Grissam's father. Will have a look at a few things later and send you an email.
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Re: CRAWFORD-GRISSAM 1902 marriage?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 29 November 08 21:31 GMT (UK) »
King Crawford age 28? In the church records they say he was born 1867 making him 35 in 1902, is it possible they got his sister Martha (1874)mixed up.
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Re: CRAWFORD-GRISSAM 1902 marriage?
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 29 November 08 21:58 GMT (UK) »
King Crawford age 28? In the church records they say he was born 1867 making him 35 in 1902, is it possible they got his sister Martha (1874)mixed up.
Which church records?
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Re: CRAWFORD-GRISSAM 1902 marriage?
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 29 November 08 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Ringsend pres
crawford,king,grissam, aghadowey
currie, coleraine, londonderry

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Re: CRAWFORD-GRISSAM 1902 marriage?
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 29 November 08 22:49 GMT (UK) »
King CRAWFORD born 16 Aug.1867 Aghadowey district, son of James Crawford and Catherine King. Suspect age in church register is just wrong- maybe lowered his age as bride seems to be only 22 years old.
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Re: CRAWFORD-GRISSAM 1902 marriage?
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 29 November 08 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Bit of vanity even in those days. ;D
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