FRANCIS GARRATT - PR Lookup Please - 1823 Kempston, Bedfordshire

[hmserge]

Does anyone have information on Parish Records for Bedfordshire around 1823.  His name is Francis Garratt and his father's name was William Garratt.  He was born around 1823 and died I think around 1855, Kempston, Bedfordshire. 

Much appreciated.

Heidi 

[bedfordshire boy]

Virtually all Beds baptisms and marriages pre 1812 have been extracted onto the IGI at www.familysearch.org. If it's not there it's likely the person wasn't baptised for whatever reason, non-conformity being the commonest, or that he wasn't born in Beds

In 1841 he was aged 45 ie 45-49 as ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 below, and born in Beds. But both are often inaccurate in 1841. But the death date that you quote (it was in the original wording of your message until you edited the message and changed the whole request!), 7 May 1846, was the burial date at Kempston of William aged 62. Burial ages are often inaccurate too!

The first baptism of a child of William and Elizabeth Garrett in Kempston was in 1813, with the next not until 1820. Different family?

In 1851 in Kempston his widow Elizabeth 66 b Chatteris Hunts (it's actually in Cambs) was living with son William 40 widower born Aspley, and son George 17 b Kempston, so it seems as though they moved from Aspley Guise to Kempston between 1811 and 1813.

William jnr was baptised at Aspley Guise on 24 Jan 1811, and Aspley Guise is only a mile from Woburn, where there's a member submission on the IGI, which needs checking as member submissions are very unreliable, of the birth of a William Garrett on 12 Aug 1788, son of William and Ann.

How do you know his father was also William? (the modification to the original message has removed the statement that William's father was also William)

I can't see an obvious marriage for William and Elizabeth c1810. I have the Chatteris transcript and there's no marriage there.

Woburn rates book site at
http://www.vmine.net/woburn/search_names.asp
shows a William Garrett living at 8 Birchmore Green 1802-9

David

[hmserge]

Thank you so much David for your reply. 

I will take a look again in detail very shortly.

William Garratt's son was called Francis Garratt, so I've changed the details to him as maybe this way it will be easier to find records for him. 
Do you have any record of a Francis Garratt? 

Heidi

[bedfordshire boy]

It's not difficult. If you check the IGI you'll find his 1823 baptism and his 1844 marriage to Matilda Devereux.

By changing your original post to a look up for Francis from a look up for William, my response doesn't make sense! It's not a good idea to make wholesale amendments like that which change the nature of the request and make subsequent responses appear to be non-sequitur, and make the thread impossible to follow for later readers

Do you have him in censuses?

David

[hmserge]

Thank you again David, I'll check and see if I can find Francis Garratt.
I do have some census details too.  I was hoping to find more on his father William, so fingers crossed.

 

[bedfordshire boy]

The only marriage on the IGI that fits is at Marston Moretaine on 15 Feb 1810 between William Garret and Elizabeth Roberts. But why would William, possibly from Woburn, marry Elizabeth from Chatteris Cambs at Marston Moretaine? You need a look up from someone with the transcript to see if parishes of residence are given.

I can't see that there any children of William and Elizabeth baptised in Marston Moretaine, nor was either of them buried in MM, so they could be the couple who baptised William in Aspley Guise in 1811.

There's no Elizabeth Roberts baptised in MM, but there is one in Chatteris baptised on 16 Oct 1791, daughter of Thomas and Sarah.

If you believe in naming patterns William and Elizabeth baptised the following children:
1811 at Aspley Guise - William (father's assumed father)
1813 at Kempston - Sally (mother's assumed mother)
1820 at Kempston (Garratt) - Thomas (mother's assumed father)

It'll take a bit more work to prove who William was. You need:
1. a look up in Marston Moretaine parish for the 1810 marriage between William Garret and Elizabeth Roberts  to get parishes of residence
2. a look up in Woburn parish register to see if the member submission of the baptism of William Garrett on 12 Aug 1788 actually exists

David

[bedfordshire boy]

This has been sorted off board. Beds was a red herring. Heidi's Francis Garratt and  family came from Belper, Derbyshire