Thankyou Sisterjane!!!
I have to keep checking its all one person, so much information. This is not the first time you have helped me either
- I don't know what to say.
We are starting to piece some of the jigsaw together...
... I never thought i see Thomas return, i don't know what to think of him now!
So their both living content in 1871 and then sometime in the late 1870's the family, or maybe just Alice and the children move to Warks - family connection on Thomas' side?
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Then the 1881 census comes on by and Alice is alone with the children in Warks and Thomas could well be in Liverpool - certainly looks like him
1891 - They both back together in St Helens
Now i was a little rushed last night and didn't really go into detail. I have been looking closer at my notes and i see that the 1881 census was taken on April 3rd...
...While in the Tuesday April 19th 1881 edition of the Liverpool Mercury is the report i mentioned about Alice's younger brother Josiah having mistakingly identified the week previous (Sat 16th) a man's body who died at Broadgreen railway station - Here is the whole article:
THE RAILWAY ACCIDENT AT BROADGREEN
Yesterday, at the Abbey Hotel, Broadgreen, Mr Barker deputy coroner, held the inquest on the body of a man unknown, who was killed at the London and North-western Railway Station, Broadgreen, on the 14th instant, under circumstances already reported. Mr Ferrand, from Lime-street station, attended the inquiry on behalf of the railway company. After hearing the evidence of W.H Whittle, the porter on duty at the time of the accident, and of the stationmaster, the jury recorded a verdict of "Accidental death"
It was stated in the course of the inquest, that on Saturday last, the body was identified by Mr. Josiah Jackson, of Wilson-street, St Helens as that of his brother-in-law, Thomas Murry, who was a furnace-man empolyed at the St Helens Copper Works, but subsequent inquiry showed that Mr. Jackson was mistaken.
The deceased, who was about 30 to 35 years of age, appeared, from a book found upon him, to have been a hawker from Leeds or its neighbourhood.
So the census is taken on the 3rd where we see that Alice is alone with children down in Warks, then on the 14th a man is killed at Broadgreen Station and by the 16th Josiah has identified the man as Thomas. However by the 19th the newspaper says he is mistaken.
The question remains, how and why did Josiah think that this unknown man was his brother-in-law and not only that he identified the body!
He worked at the same place (assusming theres only one Copper Works in St Helens)