Henry Bishop - Adelaide - died 1911

[lizb]

My ancestors are the Bishop family from Wellington in Somerset, England.

I have just been there looking for memorials in the town cemetary and was interested to find the following memorial.

Lovingly remembered in England and Australia
Henry Bishop
late of Adelaide, Australia
died 28 Dec 1911
aged 70 years

This is the first time I have found an Australian connection and am keen to follow it up.

I am hoping that someone may know or be connected to the family, or may be able to help me by looking for Henry in local Australian records.

In the early nineteenth century when Henry presumably left for Australia the family were either weavers or blacksmiths.

[cando]

Had a very quick look at early shipping records and there is this one for SA

BISHOP Henry, Martha nee BOUNDY, Mary Ann, Henry, John, Robert arrived 4 Mar 1849 on Mary Ann from Bristol via Plymouth 25 Dec 1848

http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1849MaryAnn.htm

I wonder if late of Adelaide may also mean that he had only lived there for some time.

Cheers
Cando

Edit - I see they are from Penryn in Cornwall.

[tropicalj]

Hello  there

I  just checked the SA deaths and he  isn't registered there.

So  maybe  he  had come  to visit and died.

So we are looking for Henry  born 1841c but we don't know  where.

mmmmmmmmmmmm

a challenge.

Jenn

[cando]

There are birth registrations in the 1870's and early 1880's to a Henry BISHOP and a Elizabeth Jane HAMBLY.

1909 Electoral Roll for SA 
BISHOP Henry   Main Street, Aldinga   Saddler
BISHOP Henry    Yorktown   Farmer

Wonder if there would have been a death notice in the Advertiser?


Cando

[lizb]

I have found a few more details about the family that sailed out on the Mary Ann in 1849. But they all seem to come from the Penryn area of Cornwall. I have found baptisms of the four children and both the parents. I have not yet found their marriage or where they were in the 1841 census. But this Henry was baptised in 1837 so was at least 74 in 1911.

The only possible death registration of a Henry Bishop in 1911 aged 70 in England is in Lewisham, London. If this is him and he was visiting from Australia, why was he buried in Wellington - unless he had some connection with the Wellington family. I am not convinced this is the one.

So for the moment I am assuming he was just visiting Wellington when he died and he may or may not have had a connection with the Bishop family there. ANd he may have been born in England or Australia.

I will contunue to look for a death registration and some record of the burial.
Looking in newspapers is a good idea. But that will have to wait until next year's planned visit to the Somerset County library.

Thanks anyway

[tropicalj]

I  am  wondering  if  it is an  actual  burial  or  just a  memorial stone.  Can  you  tell us  if  it is a grave site please?  Maybe  the cemetery might  have some records  to  help.

Jenn

[cando]

Hi Liz

Yes I noticed the death reg in Lewisham and I guess only a look at the cert would give you any info.

The Henry BISHOP, saddler,  on the electoral roll living at Aldinga has been ruled out....he would have been too young.  Father of Lionel Jack [John] BISHOP, Festival director and musician.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/04gw/
 
I would think Henry's death in 1911would be noted in the South Australian newspaper of the day...The Advertister as it looks as though his death has been memorialised in South Australia.

http://www.saghs.org.au/graves.htm
> Cemetery Index
Surname: BISHOP
Given name(s): Henry Bishop
Source date: 1911

There is a facility on the website to request a lookup. 

Cheers
Cassie

[lizb]

It is a memorial stone in a graveyard - on a gravesite. (See attached picture)

My initial impression was it was a memorial to someone who had died in Australia - because of the wording and because the stone is not of a standard 'gravesite' design.
If so, then I am intrigued by a possible family connection.

The possibility that he was a visitor who died in Wellington was easier to understand but less likely now you have found a death record in Australia.

I have not found ay records of the death or burial in anything I have looked at but that is probably becasue it is too recent.  The cemetary is not attached to a specific church so I cannot search church records. So I wil contact Taunton Council who I think are responsible for the cemetary and see if they can provide any information.

Otherwise I think a newspaper look up is the most promising source of information. Unless a anyone is able to check the 1911 burial record?

[tropicalj]

The possibility that he was a visitor who died in Wellington was easier to understand but less likely now you have found a death record in Australia.

We  haven't as yet  found an actual  death registration  in Australia as yet.

kind thoughts Jenn