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Re: SIMMONS/BOWEN
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 06 December 08 17:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carole,
I sent for the marriage cert for Benjamin and Elizabeth yesterday.  I'll get back to you when it arrives.
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Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae

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Re: SIMMONS/BOWEN
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 16:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carole,
The Shropshire CC office couldn't find the marriage certificate.  I guess I'll have to find a LDS office to get a copy?
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Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae

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Re: SIMMONS/BOWEN
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 16:53 GMT (UK) »
I think I've solved it - the IGI entry shows 13 MAR but I think they have incorrectly transcribed it and it should be 13 MAY

I checked the June quarter on the full GRO index and there is a match for Benjamin and Elizabeth under June qtr 1887 Ellesmere 6A 1347

Funnily enough - the marriage is not transcribed on freebmd

Another trip to Shropshire CC I'm afraid
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Re: SIMMONS/BOWEN
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Carole,
Thanks again.  I'll see if I can get the marriage cert now.
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Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae


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Re: SIMMONS/BOWEN
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 23 December 08 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carole,
I got Benjamin and Elizabeth's marriage certificate today.  The date is April 11, 1887, in the parish church of Great Ness.  Benjamin's dad is also Benjamin Bowen, a labourer.  Benjamin was 34 years old (so born 1853), and he was a bachelor and shepherd and his residence was Hadnal.
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Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae

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Re: SIMMONS/BOWEN
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 24 December 08 00:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have struck through the census entries above to avoid any confusion.  Now that we have his fathers name - here goes with the census entries

1861 for  Wistanstow

BOWEN

Benjamin 40 b Church Stretton ag labourer
Maria 35 b Wistanstow
Benjamin 10 b Aslerton
Lewis 6 b Aslerton
George Vicarage 7 wife's son b Wistanstow
William Vicarage 4 wife's son b Wistanstow
RG9; Piece: 1844; Folio: 113; Page: 13

Marriages December qtr 1860   
 
Bowen  Benjamin    Shrewsbury  6a 1319   
Vicarage  Maria     Shrewsbury  6a 1319

Births Dec 1855 
 
Bowen  Lewis    Clun  6a 461
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Re: SIMMONS/BOWEN
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 24 December 08 01:09 GMT (UK) »
1851 for Asterton (Norbury)

BOWEN - all b Norbury except Benj snr

Benjamin 32  ag labourer b Church Stretton
Margaret   31 
Richard   10 
William   6 
Beatrice or Betsy   3
HO107; Piece: 1983; Folio: 292; Page: 1

1871 for Asterton

Benjamin Bowen 50  b Church Stretton - farmer of 6 acres
Maria   44   b Wistanstow
Edwin  9  b Wistanstow
John   7  b Norbury
Emma   6  ditto
Thomas  4  ditto
Robert 2 ditto
George Vicarage 16  b Wistanstow
RG10; Piece: 2732; Folio: 16; Page: 8

I think you will need a copy of Lewis's birth cert to find Margaret's maiden name as I cannot find a marriage.   It could possibly be the one in June 1842 but there are 2 males and only one female name on the same page
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Re: SIMMONS/BOWEN
« Reply #16 on: Monday 29 December 08 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carole,
I've just ordered a copy of Benjamin's birth certificate - I queried Shropshire office and they found it. 
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Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Montgomeryshire - Jane (Roberts?)
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - Nainby, Cuthbert, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Barker, Gerrard, Sparks
Cheshire - Goldsmith, Adams
Derbyshire - Goldsmith
Cornwall - Mann, Cock
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron, Albin
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae

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Re: SIMMONS/BOWEN
« Reply #17 on: Monday 29 December 08 17:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Have they confirmed his father was Benjamin & mother was Margaret?
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