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American birth look up please
« on: Monday 20 October 08 14:32 BST (UK) »
I would be v ery grateful if anyone with access to American sites could find a birth of a MARY CRONIER b about 1819 in Baltimore  Maryland(according to the British census) She is my 3 times ggrandmother who lived in Westminster at the time of the birth of my ggrandfather.I know nothing about her--no date of arrival in England etc.On one census there was a sister (no name) who was born in New Jersey.
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Ringrose
Mann Ringrose Prior( West London)Prior (Halstead Colchester and Sudbury)Ringrose (Northants) Clark(sussex  Bath)Light(Shropshire West London)Barber(Northants)Gaudern (Northants)Piper(Suffolk)Carter (Essex)Nightingale,Stiles,Dunk,Hedgecock(Kent)Mann(south Devon )Le Cronier,Le Quesne,Poingdestre,Esnouf,Le Guyt,Anley.Le Carteret(Jersey)Clark(Bath,Batcombe,and Nyland )
er(essex)Nightingale(kent Sussex)Sutton (sussex)

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Re: American birth look up please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 October 08 14:39 BST (UK) »
Hi

Was Cronier her maiden or married surname?  On which UK census(es) does she appear, and in what name?

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: American birth look up please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 October 08 17:39 BST (UK) »
Cronier was her mauden name. She married a William Hart mann (as on his sons birth cert)but I have not found a marriage cert.Son was born 184 in London. On the 1851 census she is widowed witha 6 year old son. Her name then was Mary Ann mann.
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Mann Ringrose Prior( West London)Prior (Halstead Colchester and Sudbury)Ringrose (Northants) Clark(sussex  Bath)Light(Shropshire West London)Barber(Northants)Gaudern (Northants)Piper(Suffolk)Carter (Essex)Nightingale,Stiles,Dunk,Hedgecock(Kent)Mann(south Devon )Le Cronier,Le Quesne,Poingdestre,Esnouf,Le Guyt,Anley.Le Carteret(Jersey)Clark(Bath,Batcombe,and Nyland )
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Re: American birth look up please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 October 08 17:51 BST (UK) »
Cronier was her mauden name. She married a William Hart mann (as on his sons birth cert)but I have not found a marriage cert.Son was born 184 in London. On the 1851 census she is widowed witha 6 year old son. Her name then was Mary Ann mann.
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Ringrose

Have you got the 1851 reference?  I'm not easily finding her.

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: American birth look up please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 October 08 11:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Anna
1851--HO107/1480St Margarets Westminster-All Saints --Knightsbridge
13Raphael Street--Mary Mann Wid 32 Householder b America Baltimore
                              N.K.son 6 b Pimlico(my ggrandfather William Hart Mann)
                              N.K.sister  30Milliner b Jersey.
1861RG9/36 Chelsea St Saviour
68 Walton Street MaryMann Head wid 40 Dressmaker b America
                            William Mann 16 Porter b Pimlico Middlesex.
I have been unable to find her on 1871 onwards so she might have remarried or died. Its a pity its such a common name.
Many thanks for your interest
Ringrose

Mann Ringrose Prior( West London)Prior (Halstead Colchester and Sudbury)Ringrose (Northants) Clark(sussex  Bath)Light(Shropshire West London)Barber(Northants)Gaudern (Northants)Piper(Suffolk)Carter (Essex)Nightingale,Stiles,Dunk,Hedgecock(Kent)Mann(south Devon )Le Cronier,Le Quesne,Poingdestre,Esnouf,Le Guyt,Anley.Le Carteret(Jersey)Clark(Bath,Batcombe,and Nyland )
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Re: American birth look up please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 October 08 11:54 BST (UK) »
In 1871, RG 10/88 folio 81 page 54
5 Milner Street, St. Luke Chelsea
(lodging with Robert Buckland, a rope dresser from Sussex)
Mrs Man, lodger, widow, 42, dressmaker b. Baltmore America (spelling as it appears to read on the sheet).

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Re: American birth look up please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 October 08 13:37 BST (UK) »
Wow that is amazing. I suppose it was the spelling of the surname Mann. It must be her because the are is right.Perhaps I ll have to look at other censuses.
As you have been so clever in finding her I wonder if you can give me any clues at finding my ggrandmather--another Mary Mann(neeLight) born 1849  in Pimlico. She married the William of1851 and 1861 censuses  in1868 and had 13 children. I have found them all on the 1901 but not her. In Athe 1891 she is widowed and living with a few of her sons and a daughter in Parkville Road Fulham.
Any help would be appreciated
Ringrose
Mann Ringrose Prior( West London)Prior (Halstead Colchester and Sudbury)Ringrose (Northants) Clark(sussex  Bath)Light(Shropshire West London)Barber(Northants)Gaudern (Northants)Piper(Suffolk)Carter (Essex)Nightingale,Stiles,Dunk,Hedgecock(Kent)Mann(south Devon )Le Cronier,Le Quesne,Poingdestre,Esnouf,Le Guyt,Anley.Le Carteret(Jersey)Clark(Bath,Batcombe,and Nyland )
er(essex)Nightingale(kent Sussex)Sutton (sussex)