Author Topic: **Solved!! Many thanks!**Family mystery - Holmes/Campbell/Groves/Button  (Read 4802 times)

Huneynutloop

  • Guest
**Solved!! Many thanks!**Family mystery - Holmes/Campbell/Groves/Button
« on: Tuesday 21 October 08 09:31 BST (UK) »
Hi:)

I've got a bit of a family mystery here...I'm searching for anything at all to do with these two sisters:

Nellie Holmes
b. 1896 - Sheffield, Yorks.
m. 1919 - Lincs. (to Albert E. Campbell)
d. 1967 - Lincoln, Lincs.
Also:
Florence Amelia Holmes
b. 1898 - Sheffield Yorks.
d. 1915 - Lincs.
Their parents were Joseph Holmes and Sarah Jane Groves (the latter I think may have died in childbirth with Florence).

Now these two are a bit of a family mystery..they weren't brought up by their father, but I don't know why. Nellie I know was brought up by "Auntie Minnie Button" (who I've found to be Amelia Button, wife of Alken, living in Nettleham, Lincs. in 1901). I'm told she would never talk about her parents because she said she wasn't wanted, and wouldn't even tell her daughters when her birthday was.. I'd love to find out why these two were sent away and what relation "Auntie Minnie Button" was to the family?

Also, I can't find Florence anywhere on the 1901 census, and although I think she died in Welbourn, Lincs. I don't know who she was given away to, as she definately didn't stay with her father (he later remarried). I'm also interested in finding out why she died so young.

If anyone has any of these people in their tree, or has maybe seen Florence on the census I'd love to hear from you!

Many thanks:)

Catherine

Offline tazzie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,186
    • View Profile
Re: Family mystery - Holmes/Campbell/Groves/Button
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 09:49 BST (UK) »



    This may help find Minnie .....

  Amelia HOLMES  married
  Atkin Button     Caistor Q4 1874

  Amelia daughter of Samuel &Ann Holmes


               Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

 This information is Crown Copyright from
   www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Online jaywit

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,488
  • I will find them wherever they are hiding
    • View Profile
Re: Family mystery - Holmes/Campbell/Groves/Button
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 09:55 BST (UK) »
According to this Florence died in 1919, not 1915, maybe flu?

Florence A Holmes
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Year of Registration: 1919
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 20
District: Sleaford (To 1933)
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 458

If you send for her death certificate it will give the cause of death and who registered it.
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

UK Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Huneynutloop

  • Guest
Re: Family mystery - Holmes/Campbell/Groves/Button
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 10:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Jaywit that's brilliant thank-you! I'll send off for it this afternoon:)

Thanks Tazzie:) I've actually got Nellie's father's parents down as being James Holmes and Diana Ann Coope, so think Minnie must maybe have been a cousin or something (assuming I have his parents names correct as I know he had a sister called amelia as well)....hmmm...

Catherine


Offline down-under

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,860
    • View Profile
Re: Family mystery - Holmes/Campbell/Groves/Button
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 10:23 BST (UK) »
1901 Rg13/3051 folio 52 page 12 Welbourn lincolnshire


Private House

George Meggitt? age 55 Well Sinker lincs
Elizabeth Meggitt age 50 Welburn
Annie M dau age 29 Welburn Dress maker own account
Ada L dau age 26 Welburn mothers help
George M son age 19 Welbourn Well sinker
Harry son age 14 Welbourn Farm lab
Frederick son age 12 Welbourn
Gertrude dau age 11 Sheffield Yorkshire
Florence A Holmes nurse child age 2 born Welbourn Lincolnshire

The other children Merritt are born Welbourn maybe the Sheffield  Yorkshire was posted by mistake to Gertrude instead of Florence.

Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline tazzie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,186
    • View Profile
Re: Family mystery - Holmes/Campbell/Groves/Button
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 10:28 BST (UK) »



  James was b@ 1830 Normanby son of Robert & Mary.
 In 1841 he has a 5 years old brother Samuel.
  HO107/641 F 5 P 5

 Amelia & Atkin do not appear on census with any children so it would be easy for them to take her in .

               Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

 This information is Crown Copyright from
   www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline down-under

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,860
    • View Profile
Re: Family mystery - Holmes/Campbell/Groves/Button
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 10:29 BST (UK) »
Hello

1891 Gertrude Meggitt is born Welbourn Lincs not Sheffield The 1901 census looks like Florence A Holmes of Sheffield

Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline avm228

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,827
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Family mystery - Holmes/Campbell/Groves/Button
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 10:31 BST (UK) »
Amelia BUTTON, 44 in 1901, was born in Bishop Norton - I should think she is therefore likely to be the Amelia HOLMES, 15 b Bishop Norton, who in 1871 was in service in North Owersby, Lincs: RG10/3425/23/2

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

Offline GeoffE

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,995
  • Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Family mystery - Holmes/Campbell/Groves/Button
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 10:31 BST (UK) »
Births Mar 1890
MEGGITT    Gertrude Elizabeth         Sleaford    7a   472
Don't cry because its over. Smile because it happened.