Morris/Shaw/Cunnington

[rosswalker0150]

looking through all the records, that would be the most likely, Although on the register it doesnt say for how long, do you know why this is?

My bad yes of course it has a term of 14 years, must get new glasses

[rosswalker0150]

The baptism for Selina and for Mary only give their mother's name, there was no fathers name mentioned.

Re William Shaw - trouble with a name like Shaw there are lot’s of them.
Looking at the Australian Convict Transportation registers 1791 – 1861, there were 31 William Shaw’s.
There was one convicted at Nottingham in December 1846…so not him..?
Then there is William Shaw convicted at Derby 2nd July 1839 – term of 14 years, voyage date – 11th November 1839, vessel the “Runnymede” to the colony Van Dieman’s Land.

Will see if I can get the details for Selina.

Sheila.

If Alice shaw uses his name as the father for the baptisms in 1843 but is put down as husband transported in 1844 wouldnt that mean that he sailed between those dates

[Tati]

If Alice shaw uses his name as the father for the baptisms in 1843 but is put down as husband transported in 1844 wouldnt that mean that he sailed between those dates

From what Sheila posted earlier, I understood that Selina and Mary weren't christened as William's daughters, and that he was transported in 1839 

Now what puzzles me is this:

1841
HO107/189/3 7 10
Ilkeston, Derbyshire
Alice Shaw, 30, Lacerunner, not born in county
William, 6, yes
?Alice?, 11, Lacerunner, yes
Priscilla, 3, yes
Not known, male, 1 week, yes

I don't think the unnamed boy could be Isaac (he couldn't be William's son, could he?) , and the 11 year old doesn't look like Keziah to me 

[rosswalker0150]

If Alice shaw uses his name as the father for the baptisms in 1843 but is put down as husband transported in 1844 wouldnt that mean that he sailed between those dates

From what Sheila posted earlier, I understood that Selina and Mary weren't christened as William's daughters, and that he was transported in 1839 

Now what puzzles me is this:

1841
HO107/189/3 7 10
Ilkeston, Derbyshire
Alice Shaw, 30, Lacerunner, not born in county
William, 6, yes
?Alice?, 11, Lacerunner, yes
Priscilla, 3, yes
Not known, male, 1 week, yes

I don't think the unnamed boy could be Isaac (he couldn't be William's son, could he?) , and the 11 year old doesn't look like Keziah to me 

The 11 yr old looks like Alicia or Olivia (something like that) but its still very hard to read
Looks like Alice was born Scotland, Ireland or Foreign Parts

[Dizzifish]

Tati…and your confused…lol

Wait for this….Selina gives her father as William Bennett!

Marriage in the Parish Church of Greasley (fiche 42)
9th November 1862 – by Banns.
JOHN SHAW, aged 24, bachelor, occupation Brick-Layer, residence Kimberley.
Father – Joseph Shaw, Brick-layer.
SELINA SHAW, aged 21, spinster, residence Kimberley.
Father – William Bennett, Liquor Merchant,
Both Signed.
In the presence of; Charles Shaw, Mary Morris & John Attenborough.
John Hides, vicar.


I just had enough time to look today but I so didn’t want to make a mistake regarding the fathers name so I printed it out, if you would like it just pm me with an email to forward it to.

Sheila.

[rosswalker0150]

Tati…and your confused…lol

Wait for this….Selina gives her father as William Bennett!

Marriage in the Parish Church of Greasley (fiche 42)
9th November 1862 – by Banns.
JOHN SHAW, aged 24, bachelor, occupation Brick-Layer, residence Kimberley.
Father – Joseph Shaw, Brick-layer.
SELINA SHAW, aged 21, spinster, residence Kimberley.
Father – William Bennett, Liquor Merchant,
Both Signed.
In the presence of; Charles Shaw, Mary Morris & John Attenborough.
John Hides, vicar.


I just had enough time to look today but I so didn’t want to make a mistake regarding the fathers name so I printed it out, if you would like it just pm me with an email to forward it to.

Sheila.

Wow,
the question is do you think she just had a lot of other men on her door step or is it possible she took in orphans fromthe minig industry?

Where do you find the marriage info from or is it a place you have to go for the original records?

[Dizzifish]

You can find them at Nottingham Archives and some Nottinghamshire libraries…which is where I got the marriage details – this link will tell you what is available; http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/home/leisure/archives.htm

I will mention these baptism’s (some have been mentioned already)
All baptised Greasley
Alice Shaw – baptised 13th February 1837, father SAMUEL, mother Alice, occupation FWK abode Moorgreen.
George Shaw – baptised 10th December 1838,father SAMUEL, mother Alice, occupation FWK abode Moorgreen.

Keziah Shaw – baptised 24th April 1843, father William Shaw, mother Alice, Coal Miner, abode Kimberley.
Isaac Shaw - baptised 24th April 1843, father William Shaw, mother Alice, Coal Miner, abode Kimberley.
Priscilla Shaw - baptised 24th April 1843, father William Shaw, mother Alice, Coal Miner, abode Kimberley.
William Shaw - baptised 24th April 1843, father William Shaw, mother Alice, Coal Miner, abode Kimberley.

Silena Shaw – baptised 24th April 1843 – mother Alice Shaw, abode Kimberley.
Mary Shaw - baptised 25th January 1844 – mother Alice Shaw, abode Kimberley.occupation Husband Transported

There is this burial at Kimberley;
Kezia Shaw – 18th October 1851, aged 20yrs, abode Ilkeston

I have no idea why or what happened in Alice’s apparently complicated life….but that’s half the fun in finding out..

[rosswalker0150]

indeed it is,
thank you so much for your hard work in this,
you have been a great help.