Hi Kojak, and all at Greenbrae forum, i am totally new to forum I found it by accident while trying to find out about a subject about the loaning, I through illness attend a gym class for rehab to breathing, and to show how small a world it is met up with a face from the past, in fact the daughter of the late "kiddie" Houston the grandfather of the present owner of JB Houston's which was originally owned by Blaw McLaughlin & Kiddie Houston in ninety something, I started my working life as first message boy when the shop opened, enough ,the question I am trying to answer is prior to the shop opening where was the butchers shop in greenbrae loaning?, my memory tell's me that it was carried out from the first little cottage on the left hand side as you enter from the Lockerbie road( the shop now has a car park there, there was the cottage then a gate ,high wall and outbuilding with a sloping roof and if i recall the owner was either Jimmy or Wully Swan? who had a brother at the farm at the bottom of the loaning, I, by the way lived at Ivy Cottage across from the shop and remember all the names I have read in the forum ie. the Cannon's, Currie's, Johnstone's,The Goldies in Woodbine cottage,the Wilson's Father played goallie for Clyde FC, Goodwin's shop in Lockerbie rd, I could go on and on , in G/B Place Etc, Etc and all points I was born and raised there from 1942 until 1968 when I got married and moved on,but would appreciate if someone could help with an answer to the butcher's baffle