looking for a Michael Francis EMPHIELD of Orbost Vic.

[tropicalj]

another death

Dawn Muriel CATER died in 1968 aged 22 at PARK reg no 913
father Malcom McLarty mother May Elizabeth EMPHIELD

Jenn

[deeiluka]

Now this is interesting….these are all the EMPHIELDS listed on the Electoral Rolls that are online up to 1936…..

In 1903 Michael Francis Emphield and wife Florence are in Orbost. Michael is working as a labourer.

In 1909 Michael Francis Emphield  and wife Florence are in Murrungowar Orbost  Victoria. Michael is working as a labourer. 
 
In  1914 Florence Emphield is still at Murrungowar Orbost  Victoria.
Michael is not listed at all in 1914.

In 1919  Michael Francis Emphield is at 122 Princes St, Port Melbourne  Victoria and working as a seaman while Florence is still in Sale at Thompson St.

Then we get to.....

In 1924 Florence Emphield is in Raglan St Sale Victoria       

In 1924  Matthew Francis Emphield is at 28 Edsall St, Malvern  Victoria occupation given as rly. emp.

In 1931 & 1936 Matthew Francis Emphield is at 154 Alma rd St Kilda Central Victoria  occupation is Railway employee

Now who is this…..is it Michael going by Matthew? There is no Michael listed for any of the above years…….

The rest.....

In 1931 Florence Emphield and children James George, Florence and May Elizabeth were living in Raglan St Sale. James George was working as a carter.

In 1936 Florence Emphield and children James George, Florence and May Elizabeth were at Maffra Road, Sale. James George was working as a carter.

In 1919  Albert Francis Emphield  is in Orbost Victoria and listed as a motor mechanic.

In 1924 Albert Francis Emphield  & Harold Emphield are at Cabbage Creek Orbost Victoria, with Albert listed as farmer and Harold listed as labourer.

1931 Albert Francis Emphield  & Harold Emphield are at Cabbage Creek Orbost Victoria, Albert listed as motor driver, Harold as labourer.       

1931 William Emphield is at Tarbuck’s Orbost  Victoria and listed as a labourer. Also there is  Esther Harriet Maude EMPFIELD, home duties.

In 1936 Albert Francis Emphield , Harold Emphield & William Emphield are all at Cabbage Creek Orbost Victoria, Albert a driver, Harold a labourer, and now William is the farmer. No sign of Esther Harriet Maude EMPFIELD.


......dee

[deeiluka]

James George EMPHIELD served in WW2.

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/

....dee

[deeiluka]

Now I have found the marriage of a Matthew F. Emphield to a Violet K. Waters in the district of Woolwich 2nd quarter 1917 1d/2034.


    


Interestingly, this is the only EMPHIELD result for a search of all UK and Ireland databases on Ancestry.


....dee

[tropicalj]

now  Michael Emphield ww1 has him signing up as MAtthew but  then  there is a stat declaring he told porkies made an erroneus false statement  and his name really  was Michael Francis and he had a wife and 6  kids.

(Now I  can  claim to fame here the Edsal Street in  Malvern  is named for an Ancestor  but that is an entirely different story.)

I wonder  then  on  the Rootsweb information  has Michael Francis Emphield father as James. an  Allan Wiles is alledgley investigating the Empfield name.

Jenn

[countryboy51]

JEnn
Along with dee thank you very much for your valuable info. You were also very helpful  JEnn wiyh my research into the Adams and Laing side of my family research. From that my brother and sister are going to pay the Springvale cemetary a visit to check out the sites. At this stage I won't be able to as I live in Queensland. We also have some marriage certificates etc to apply for and follow up.
Let me now fill you in with the connection. Lyla Laing (who was born in Sydney 9/3/1925 to Robert Alexander Laing & Rosa Adams) was firstly married to Desmond Wiles on 28/2/1948 at Burwood. Desmond died in 1959. Lyla then married Arthur Emphield on 31/5/1969 in Geelong. Arthur Emphield was born on 5/12/1924 in Sale Vic. we think to Elizabeth May Emphield with father unknown. We think Arthur was bought up by other family members possibly the grandparents not knowing that Elizabeth was his mother then.?
Cheers countryboy51

[countryboy51]

JEnn

I think I gave you Michael's name as Francis in the army when it should have been Matthew. I will have to check the records again as I failed to pick up that he declared he had a wife and 6 kids

CheersCountryboy51

[countryboy51]

JEnn
 You also mentioned Enfield as an alternate name with that Birth record. As Michael was good at changing names do you think he made a whole new name for the family for whatever reason ?

Cheers Countryboy51

[deeiluka]

Good morning Allan,
Jenn will probably give you her opinion whhen she is online. However, for what it is worth.....I would nopt be at all surprised if Emphield is not Michael's original name. it may be.....but there are very few variations to be found, and as you see from my earlier post.....only one record pops up for EMPHIELD on the whole of the UK and Ireland databases available through Ancestry.

And that is a Matthew F. Emphield. 

If you can afford it, it may well be an interesting and possibly informative exercise to purchase that marriage certificate. Exchange rate is excellent for purchasing English certificates at present.



....dee