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Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« on: Thursday 30 October 08 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello everyone, this is the first time I write in this forum. I hope I'll find what I'm looking for.

I'm searching any information of anyone connected with or who possesses any facts about the family of Samuel C. Morris, born 1823 in Kington (Herefordshire), christened there that same year (September 14th); exact birth date unknown; death date possibly in 1897.

Parents:
Samuel Morris (b. 1789 Hereford - Saint Peter's)
Ann Derry (christened January 2nd 1794 in Kimbolton, Herefordshire).

Siblings
James (christened 1815 Kimbolton)
Caroline (ditto 1816, Grendon Bishop)
Mary (ditto 1820 Kington)
Edward Scarlett (ditto 1821 Eye)
Charlotte (ditto 1826 Kington)

Family:
WIFE: Ellen Mound, born 1826 Wormsley.
Married 1848 Weobley.

CHILDREN:
Catherine Morris (1849 Kinnersley)
Samuel Cartwright Morris (1851 North Cannon), my ancestor.
Ellen Morris (1855 Kinnersley)
Richard Thomas Morris (1860 Kinnersley)
Mary Morris (1867 Kinnersley)

Would be grateful if you could provide me with any information, as I haven't found much on here about the Morris family. My e-mail: (*)



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Herefordshire: ALLEN (Colwall), CARTWRIGHT (Kington & Almeley), DAVIS (Colwall), EVANS (Pembridge), GODSALL (Colwall), JONES (Whitbourne), MORRIS (Kington & Kinnersley), MOUND (Wormsley), TIPPINS (Staunton-on-Arrow), RODWAY (Colwall), VICKRESS (Wellington & Hope-under-Dinmore), WATKINS (Almeley)
Shropshire: MOUND (Hope Bagot)
Worcestershire: PARKER (Kempsey)

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 December 08 14:04 GMT (UK) »
What sort of info are you after?  For example do you have them on census returns?

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 December 08 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Absolutely any sort of info would do. Dates of death, marriage, their ancestry... anything would come in handy. I once saw the census entries which more or less gave me their years of birth and so on but it was all quite limited. I'd love to know if they had any further descendants or where they came from. Thanks for any info you can forward me!
Herefordshire: ALLEN (Colwall), CARTWRIGHT (Kington & Almeley), DAVIS (Colwall), EVANS (Pembridge), GODSALL (Colwall), JONES (Whitbourne), MORRIS (Kington & Kinnersley), MOUND (Wormsley), TIPPINS (Staunton-on-Arrow), RODWAY (Colwall), VICKRESS (Wellington & Hope-under-Dinmore), WATKINS (Almeley)
Shropshire: MOUND (Hope Bagot)
Worcestershire: PARKER (Kempsey)

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 December 08 22:26 GMT (UK) »
Ok, I've found them on some census returns.  I'll have another look to see if I can find them on the other censuses.

1861 Census:  Kinnersley  (RG9/piece 1825/ Folio 126/ Page 16)
Samuel C Morris  H  38  Journeyman carpenter  bn Kington, Heref.
Ellen Morris  W  36  bn Wormsley, Heref.
Catherine Morris  D  12  SCholar  bn Kinnersley, Heref.
Samuel Morris  S  10  Scholar  bn Norton Canon, Heref.
Ellen Morris  D  5  Scholar  bn Kinnersley, Heref.
Richard T Morris   S  1  bn Kinnersley, Heref.
Samuel Morris  father  (widower)  72  Tailor  bn Hereford St Peter

1881 Census  Parton, Kinnersley (RG11/Piece 2599/Folio 121/PAge12)
Samuel Morris  H  57  Labourer  bn Kington, Heref.
Ellen Morris  W  55  bn Wormsley, Heref.
Richard Thos Morris  S  21  Labourer  bn Kinnersley, Heref.
Mary Morris  D  14  bn Kinnersley, Heref.

1891 Census Boltons Farm, Pembridge (RG12/Piece 2077/ Folio 95/ Page 15)
Samuel C Morris  H  69  Farmer  bn KIngton, Heref.
Ellen Morris  W  66  bn Wormsley, Heref.
Richard T Morris S  31  bn Kinnersley, Heref.
+ 2 farm servants


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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 December 08 22:39 GMT (UK) »
1871 Census Kinnersley, Aily (?) Kinnersely (RG10/Piece 2706/ Folio 44/ Page 11)
Samuel C Morris  H  47  Carpenter  bn Kington
Ellen Morris  W  45  bn Wormsley Grange
Samuel Morris  S  20  Carpenter  bn Norton Canon
Ellen Morris  d  15  General Servant  bn Kinnersley
Richard T Morris  S  11  Scholar  bn Kinnersley
Mary Morris  D  4  bn Kinnersley

1901 Census Eardisland, Dowsage
Richard Morris  H  41  Labourer on farm  bn Kinnersley
Ellen Morris  Mother  (widowed)  75  Housekeeper  bn Wormsley.

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 December 08 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Samuel dies in May 1897 - aged 73 he was a carpenter
Ellen dies in January 1912 -  aged 86.  In 1901 she is living with son Richard in Eardisland
Another son Thomas born in 1853 lived for just over a year

A  Samuel Morris marries Anne Derry in Kimbolton in August 1813 but there is a marriage between a Samuel Morris and Anne Cartwright in Kington also in 1813 - would you think this is more likely as the name Cartwright turns up as a middle name for Samuel ???

Samuel snr [aged 61] and Ann [aged 63]  were in Kinnersley with daughter Mary [aged 30] and Catherine aged 1 in 1851. She appears to be the daughter of Samuel and Ellen [Maund] while baby Samuel aged 1 month is at home with Samuel and Ellen in Norton Canon




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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 December 08 22:46 GMT (UK) »
Spidermonkey - I found Samuel down as a Carpenter and Ellen as a Carpenter's Wife on the 1881 Cenus, and Richard Thomas the son as a Labourer

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 07 December 08 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Puffcat, the marriage info about Samuel marrying the Derry/Cartwright comes as a sort of surprise... I'll have to check that one out and I'll post any news. Do you have any idea where Ellen Morris died in 1912? Is anyone here related to them, by the way? Where was baby Thomas born/died?

Thanks a lot!
Herefordshire: ALLEN (Colwall), CARTWRIGHT (Kington & Almeley), DAVIS (Colwall), EVANS (Pembridge), GODSALL (Colwall), JONES (Whitbourne), MORRIS (Kington & Kinnersley), MOUND (Wormsley), TIPPINS (Staunton-on-Arrow), RODWAY (Colwall), VICKRESS (Wellington & Hope-under-Dinmore), WATKINS (Almeley)
Shropshire: MOUND (Hope Bagot)
Worcestershire: PARKER (Kempsey)

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 December 08 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Samuel dies in May 1897 - aged 73 he was a carpenter
Ellen dies in January 1912 -  aged 86.  In 1901 she is living with son Richard in Eardisland
Another son Thomas born in 1853 lived for just over a year

A  Samuel Morris marries Anne Derry in Kimbolton in August 1813 but there is a marriage between a Samuel Morris and Anne Cartwright in Kington also in 1813 - would you think this is more likely as the name Cartwright turns up as a middle name for Samuel ???

Samuel snr [aged 61] and Ann [aged 63]  were in Kinnersley with daughter Mary [aged 30] and Catherine aged 1 in 1851. She appears to be the daughter of Samuel and Ellen [Maund] while baby Samuel aged 1 month is at home with Samuel and Ellen in Norton Canon


Was just going to flag up this, but from a different angle - on the 1841 census, Samuel Morris (senior) is 49 and Ann is 53, which suggests that it is a different Ann from the one from Kimbolton.