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Find My Past _ Am I Going Mad?
« on: Tuesday 04 November 08 10:52 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to do an address search for the 1841 census in Find My Past.

I'm getting no matches at all for Bethnal Green Road (or any variation of).  I know that bethnal Green Road was called that in 1841 because I have an 1827 map with it on.

Can someone else with Find My Past please try to search on Bethnal Green Road Middx in 1841 and tell me what they get please?

Thanks
Tsu
East London:
Happe/Hoppe (St. Georges in the East)
Stanley (middle name Thurston)
Rondeau (Spitalfields and Salford)
Jones (Bishopsgate - Thomas, Ostrich Feather Manufacturer)
Wood (London City)
McDermott (Londonderry and Stepney)
Upcraft (Bethnal Green)
Chidgey (Shoredtich)
Grim (Bethnal Green)
Row (Mast makers in Wapping)
Spurden (Stepney and Pancras)
Glibbery (Bishopsgate)

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Re: Find My Past _ Am I Going Mad?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 11:19 GMT (UK) »
FindMyPast address search regularly drives me mad!  It is really quite bizarre.  Often if you put in a whole word for the street name it gives no results, but put in the first few letters and an asterisk as a wild card search and you get the whole word you were looking for in the first place ::)

A search on Beth* with residential place Bethnal Green and county Middlesex yields:

Bethnal Green
Bethnal Green North Side
Bethnal Green North Side Guardian Society

but not Bethnal Green Road

Does that at least get you close enough to navigate to where you want to be?

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Find My Past _ Am I Going Mad?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 11:25 GMT (UK) »
I'm looking for whoever was in charge of the coffee house at 315 Bethnal Green Road.  In 1861 it was John Hosford, but I can't find him in the 1841 census.  He was born in Ireland in 1816, but was married in London in 1840 (to Jane Innocent) so would certainly have been living here in 1841.

I don't have access to the 1851, so haven't found him then, either.

He passed the coffee shop to his son in law Edwin Stanley when he died in 1874.  Edwin was my great great grandfather.

We want to know how he went from Silk Weaver to Coffee House Keeper and when.
East London:
Happe/Hoppe (St. Georges in the East)
Stanley (middle name Thurston)
Rondeau (Spitalfields and Salford)
Jones (Bishopsgate - Thomas, Ostrich Feather Manufacturer)
Wood (London City)
McDermott (Londonderry and Stepney)
Upcraft (Bethnal Green)
Chidgey (Shoredtich)
Grim (Bethnal Green)
Row (Mast makers in Wapping)
Spurden (Stepney and Pancras)
Glibbery (Bishopsgate)

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Re: Find My Past _ Am I Going Mad?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried Piggots or Kellys directories, just a thought
Knight (Nottingham & Hants) Hancock, (Kent) , Hancox (Warwickshire), Linneys (Hants) Brothers (Langford, Beds,East London), Bridgers (East London)

Other restorers please feel free to use my work if wished


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Re: Find My Past _ Am I Going Mad?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tsu,

1851 Census, the family were living with another family of silk weavers in Spital Street, Stepney
John Hosford  Head,  34,  Silk Weaver, b Ireland
Jane               wife     28      "                  Shoreditch, Middlesex
Mary                            7                          Bethnal Green
Jane                            3                              "
Alice                             1                         Christchurch, Mdx

The reference is HO107/1544 Folio 237 Page 38   

I'll have a look on the 1841 too,
Yorkslass
Norris, London 1800's
Bird, Gt Yarmouth 1800's
Smowton, Yarmouth/Norwich 1770
Dublack, Yarmouth
Binks, Essex
Wilcock, Lancashire
Kettlewell, Yorkshire

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Re: Find My Past _ Am I Going Mad?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 11:45 GMT (UK) »
OOh!  Thanks Yorkslass.

What was the name of the other family?  and can you see the name of the street?


Doh!  Just seen it was Spital Street.  I'm so used to seeing Spitalfields.  ::)
East London:
Happe/Hoppe (St. Georges in the East)
Stanley (middle name Thurston)
Rondeau (Spitalfields and Salford)
Jones (Bishopsgate - Thomas, Ostrich Feather Manufacturer)
Wood (London City)
McDermott (Londonderry and Stepney)
Upcraft (Bethnal Green)
Chidgey (Shoredtich)
Grim (Bethnal Green)
Row (Mast makers in Wapping)
Spurden (Stepney and Pancras)
Glibbery (Bishopsgate)

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Re: Find My Past _ Am I Going Mad?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 11:45 GMT (UK) »

I'm getting no matches at all for Bethnal Green Road (or any variation of).  I know that bethnal Green Road was called that in 1841 because I have an 1827 map with it on.

It will only show up as that on findmypast if that address was actually used in the census
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Re: Find My Past _ Am I Going Mad?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 11:49 GMT (UK) »
Hm.  I can't imagine what they would have called it.  There are nearly five hundred households on Bethnal Green Road...
East London:
Happe/Hoppe (St. Georges in the East)
Stanley (middle name Thurston)
Rondeau (Spitalfields and Salford)
Jones (Bishopsgate - Thomas, Ostrich Feather Manufacturer)
Wood (London City)
McDermott (Londonderry and Stepney)
Upcraft (Bethnal Green)
Chidgey (Shoredtich)
Grim (Bethnal Green)
Row (Mast makers in Wapping)
Spurden (Stepney and Pancras)
Glibbery (Bishopsgate)

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Re: Find My Past _ Am I Going Mad?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 11:50 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried Piggots or Kellys directories, just a thought

Are they available online?
East London:
Happe/Hoppe (St. Georges in the East)
Stanley (middle name Thurston)
Rondeau (Spitalfields and Salford)
Jones (Bishopsgate - Thomas, Ostrich Feather Manufacturer)
Wood (London City)
McDermott (Londonderry and Stepney)
Upcraft (Bethnal Green)
Chidgey (Shoredtich)
Grim (Bethnal Green)
Row (Mast makers in Wapping)
Spurden (Stepney and Pancras)
Glibbery (Bishopsgate)