South Lancashire Regiment soldier

[princessblackfoot]

Hi

I am trying to find information about my Great Grandfather John Joseph Lapping. His regimental number was 1026 Corporal Lapping. He served in Gibraltar 1892, in Egypt 1894, and died in Pietermaritzberg of "disease" in 1900 after fighting at the relief of Ladysmith.

The information I cannot find is his birth place and date. I have contacted the regiment who were really helpful but do not hold these records.

Any help or information would be great

cheers

Aly

[JeannieR]

Hello There.......

There were not many John Lappings' in England , so between us , we should be able to help you.

If he was serving in the army in 1892 , he would have to be at least 16 years old , which narrows it down a bit . He obviously married , because he was your great grandfather.

Do you know who ? and what was the name of your  grandparent , and when was he / she born .

We love a challenge !!

Regards

JeannieR

[JeannieR]

Hi There.......

John Lapping , married in Gibralter in 1890 registered in volume 25

a son was born , also John , registered Gibralter 1891 , whilst dad was serving with the 40th regiment . Volume 1127  page 138 .

1901 census

10 Pauls ?? Grove Road , Portsmouth.

Elizabeth J Lapping / widow / age 25 / living on a pension / born Isle of Wight
John Lapping / son / age 9 / born Gibralter
Frederick lapping / age 7 / born Egypt
Albert Lapping / son / age 5 / born Lancs
William Lapping / son / age 8 months / born Lancashire

If you get the marriage certificate , it will give his father name and occupation . You can do this online .

www.gro.gov.uk

Hope this helps

Regards

JeannieR

[liverpool annie]

Excellent Jeannie !! 

Hi Aly and welcome to RootsChat ! 

Can you tell us what you already know so we don't go over old ground !

I have been doing the Honour Roll for the 1st battalion in the Boer War ... but I can't find your John ...  I'm still looking in my books though ! .... 

I found my Granddad in 1891 in Jersey in the Channel Islands at Fort Regent barracks ... I don't have access to A* I'm afraid but you may find him there !

Annie 

[scrimnet]

Your pic doesn't appear to match your Regt!!

That chap in the pic is not a corporal, and by the looks of him, not infantry either.

I would say he is either a a cavalry Troop Sgt Major or perhaps an Artillery Sgt of some description (the Battery Sgt Major had a crown, a cannon and x4 stripes..he appears to have x3 a crown and "something"...)

Here are some Victorian rank badges...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,270447.0.html

Any chance of a higher res pic of his right arm badges pse??

His pillbox hat braid would also suggest something quite other than South Lancs

There is something "cavalry" about him...

[liverpool annie]

You must have added the picture later Aly !! 

( though it is a lovely picture !!  )

Annie 

Edit ... I just had a thought I wonder if the baby is John Joseph and the soldier is his father ..... 
( his hat and collar look like the Royal Artillery  to me  )

I guess I'll have to wait to find out !! 

[liverpool annie]

I found the same information you already had Aly .... in the regimental casualty lists .... except I can add it was 8th February 1900 and the disease was probably typhoid fever ... I can't find any of his personal details I'm afraid ..... but I'll keep looking !

Annie 

[JeannieR]

Hi Guys..........


This is just a THOUGHT.......

John Looks quite mature in the photograph....quite handsome too !!

I have found this little boy on the 1861 census

5 / 7court Watkinson Street , Liverpool

Mary Judge / head / married / age 37 / house keeper / born Ireland
John Judge / son / age 13 / app joiner / born Ireland
Peter Judge / son / age 9 / scholar / born Liverpool
Ann Judge / daughter / age 3 / born Liverpool
MARY LAPPING / daughter / married / age 26 / washer woman / born Ireland
JOHN LAPPING / grandson / age 1 / born Liverpool

Mary Judge / John LAPPIN / registered Sept 1858 / Liverpool / vol 8b page 541
John LAPPIN / registered June 1859 / Liverpool / vol 8b page 147

Was do you think , Annie ?

Regards
JeannieR

[scrimnet]

There is a John Lapping on Kev Asplins 1870s discharge list, but no Regt listed...Perhaps an email to him is indicated?

The pic could be as early as the late 1870s...if not earlier...

Perhaps the child is the 1900 death you have in SA?

http://www.britishmedals.us/files/1870dl.htm