Author Topic: tracing information on STRAW family, Ilkeston  (Read 5144 times)

Offline scruffyones

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 68
  • everyone's help is much appreciated and welcomed.
    • View Profile
tracing information on STRAW family, Ilkeston
« on: Wednesday 12 November 08 08:35 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find information on my gx3grandfather. Born Samuel Straw, Ilkeston Derbyshire about 1841-1849.
He immigrated to Australia in the mid 1860's working on coal mines in NSW and WA.
He married Sarah McNaughton in 1865 in Australia. They had 5 children - Ellen, Thomas Arthur, Andrew James, Annie and John Samuel. I know that thomas was born in NZ but was this because the family were over there. Or was this the time that Samuel and Sarah returned to England for three years to work in the coal mines of Derbyshire? Did they have any other children when they were back in England?
I have a few bits and pieces but would like to try and find more details to the events.
What ships did they travel on? What mines did Samuel work on as a child and before leaving england? Names of his parents and other siblings?
If anyone has any information no matter how small i would be very interested in hearing from you.
and very much appreciated of your time and help.

thank you
EUSTACE - Wantage, Berkshire
BURGESS - Maresfield, Sussex
STRAW - Ilkeston, Derbyshire
CROSS - Liverpool, Lancashire
STEWART - Ayr, Scot.
McNAUGHTON - Scot.
ROWLEY, HICKMAN, TIMMINS - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
DRADDY - Co. Cork, Ireland
WALL - Co. Clare, Ireland
JANE - Mylor, Helston, Falmouth, Cornwall,
JARMAN - Ramsgate, Kent
STEPHENSON/BROWN -  NZ &West. Aust.
GOODWIN - Sleaford, Lincolnshire, UK
HAWKINS - ?


all these families came to Australia for one reason or another.

Online carol8353

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 17,460
  • Me,mum and dad and both gran's c 1955
    • View Profile
Re: tracing information on STRAW family, Ilkeston
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 November 08 09:01 GMT (UK) »
Hello there and Welcome to Rootschat.

I have just discovered that Samuel age 65 and Sarah 62 returned to the UK from Sydney on 2  Jun 1906 on The Oratava. He is listed as a miner.I was rather hoping it might give his exact DOB....but it doesn't  :(

I'm sure we will all help to find him for you.

Back soon

Carol

PS Just looking for him on a census or two and find that ALL the Samuel Straws seem to have been born in Ilkeston!!! There is one with father called Thomas,who might be right,given that he and Sarah gave that name to their first son.



Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline scruffyones

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 68
  • everyone's help is much appreciated and welcomed.
    • View Profile
Re: tracing information on STRAW family, Ilkeston
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 November 08 09:33 GMT (UK) »
thank you. good to meet you.
I think i did have the name of that ship. I was hoping for the one that samuel travelled to australia the first or second time.
I dont have easy access to the census but have printed this off for the next time i go to the state library.
i think thomas maybe his father as like you said that was the name of his first son (my gx2 grandfather as well as a great uncle and gx2 uncle). I know that it is extremely hard to locate the right straws. as we dont have many with that name here in australia i thought it would be an easy name. which i soon found out back in the time i am looking was quite a common name. especially samuel thomas and andrew.
EUSTACE - Wantage, Berkshire
BURGESS - Maresfield, Sussex
STRAW - Ilkeston, Derbyshire
CROSS - Liverpool, Lancashire
STEWART - Ayr, Scot.
McNAUGHTON - Scot.
ROWLEY, HICKMAN, TIMMINS - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
DRADDY - Co. Cork, Ireland
WALL - Co. Clare, Ireland
JANE - Mylor, Helston, Falmouth, Cornwall,
JARMAN - Ramsgate, Kent
STEPHENSON/BROWN -  NZ &West. Aust.
GOODWIN - Sleaford, Lincolnshire, UK
HAWKINS - ?


all these families came to Australia for one reason or another.

Offline clivealbert

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 472
  • First meeting with granddaughter
    • View Profile
Re: tracing information on STRAW family, Ilkeston
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 November 08 09:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Samuel Straw bapt 10 sept.1843, born 5April1841 son of Thomas and Fanny, also on that date Wheatley Straw born 27 march1843 son of Thomas (cllier) and Fanny.Best wishes Clive
marshall, reynolds ,cockayne, parrot ,friend,hayman.bielby,carr,Dobbs,Jeffries,Dear,Spink,Henshaw,Crump


Online carol8353

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 17,460
  • Me,mum and dad and both gran's c 1955
    • View Profile
Re: tracing information on STRAW family, Ilkeston
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 November 08 09:59 GMT (UK) »
When was Samuel and Sarah's son Thomas born?
Do you know if any of them came back to the UK at anytime?

In 1891 there is a family in Nottingham shire with Thomas(coalminer) age 34 born Ilkeston(on a trip home maybe?) and wife Mary A born in Oz........kids Maud 6 Ellen 4 Mabel 2 and Thomas 8 mths.

I wonder if that might be him? With a daughter Ellen named after his sister.

They are still here in 1901...with lots more kids  ;) maybe that's why mum and dad came in 1906?

Carol
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline scruffyones

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 68
  • everyone's help is much appreciated and welcomed.
    • View Profile
Re: tracing information on STRAW family, Ilkeston
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 November 08 01:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Thomas was born in 1869 in New Zealand on the way back or to England.
Thomas married a Jessie Stewart and in 1906 was living in Western Australia with his family as well as his parents. I have come across another Thomas Straw in WA but can't make the connection. SO maybe he was a younger brother to Samuel - these are my thoughts or a cousin or nephew.
On my searches i also found a Emily Crimp Straw born in NZ 1869.

Thank you for all you help so far. I will keep in touch if i came across anymore info.
EUSTACE - Wantage, Berkshire
BURGESS - Maresfield, Sussex
STRAW - Ilkeston, Derbyshire
CROSS - Liverpool, Lancashire
STEWART - Ayr, Scot.
McNAUGHTON - Scot.
ROWLEY, HICKMAN, TIMMINS - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
DRADDY - Co. Cork, Ireland
WALL - Co. Clare, Ireland
JANE - Mylor, Helston, Falmouth, Cornwall,
JARMAN - Ramsgate, Kent
STEPHENSON/BROWN -  NZ &West. Aust.
GOODWIN - Sleaford, Lincolnshire, UK
HAWKINS - ?


all these families came to Australia for one reason or another.

Offline scruffyones

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 68
  • everyone's help is much appreciated and welcomed.
    • View Profile
Re: tracing information on STRAW family, Ilkeston
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 November 08 01:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Samuel Straw bapt 10 sept.1843, born 5April1841 son of Thomas and Fanny, also on that date Wheatley Straw born 27 march1843 son of Thomas (cllier) and Fanny.Best wishes Clive
thankyou. I have come across the name Wheatley Straw in my research but as i didnt know Samuels parents I have never made the connection that maybe he was a brother. I will try this in my searches.
Both you and carol have been very helpful in just one night.
kind regards
EUSTACE - Wantage, Berkshire
BURGESS - Maresfield, Sussex
STRAW - Ilkeston, Derbyshire
CROSS - Liverpool, Lancashire
STEWART - Ayr, Scot.
McNAUGHTON - Scot.
ROWLEY, HICKMAN, TIMMINS - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
DRADDY - Co. Cork, Ireland
WALL - Co. Clare, Ireland
JANE - Mylor, Helston, Falmouth, Cornwall,
JARMAN - Ramsgate, Kent
STEPHENSON/BROWN -  NZ &West. Aust.
GOODWIN - Sleaford, Lincolnshire, UK
HAWKINS - ?


all these families came to Australia for one reason or another.

Offline scruffyones

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 68
  • everyone's help is much appreciated and welcomed.
    • View Profile
Re: tracing information on STRAW family, Ilkeston
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 March 09 06:55 GMT (UK) »
i have found out that Samuel's father was Thomas Straw (b. 1811) who married Ann JOHNSON(b.1812) date unknown.

if anyone has other children for this couple i would love to hear from you.
EUSTACE - Wantage, Berkshire
BURGESS - Maresfield, Sussex
STRAW - Ilkeston, Derbyshire
CROSS - Liverpool, Lancashire
STEWART - Ayr, Scot.
McNAUGHTON - Scot.
ROWLEY, HICKMAN, TIMMINS - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
DRADDY - Co. Cork, Ireland
WALL - Co. Clare, Ireland
JANE - Mylor, Helston, Falmouth, Cornwall,
JARMAN - Ramsgate, Kent
STEPHENSON/BROWN -  NZ &West. Aust.
GOODWIN - Sleaford, Lincolnshire, UK
HAWKINS - ?


all these families came to Australia for one reason or another.

Offline CIVENS

  • RootsChat Pioneer
  • *
  • Posts: 1
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: tracing information on STRAW family, Ilkeston
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 October 13 21:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I wonder how far you got with this?
My ancestor was William Straw, Ilkeston Coal Miner.  His parents were Thomas and Fanny.  I believe William was the oldest - born in about 1831 (census info).  I have a further 11 children for Thomas who married first Fanny and then Ann.  William / Thomas / Harriet / Fanny / Samuel / Wheatly / Ellen / Hannah / Susan / Charles / Sarah / Arthur.  1841 census - Thomas & Fanny plus all children down to Fanny who is 3yrs.  1851 census Thomas is with Ann and all children down to Hannah who is 7mnths.
If you have any more info on Thomas and Fanny that would be great.