Author Topic: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas  (Read 35575 times)

Offline Colin Cruddace

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,574
  • Looking for GG Grandad... Must have GSH
    • View Profile
Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 26 July 09 23:06 BST (UK) »
Hello Tracy, welcome to Rootschat and to the Cruddace thread.

I don't have many details of the Barnard Castle / Streatlam families, but others might be able to help. It could be your Robert that married Elizabeth Stoddart on 15th May 1823 at Staindrop, he was from Barnard Castle.

Regards,
Colin

Offline littleclaire

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 385
  • Me!
    • View Profile
Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 26 July 09 23:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Tracy

My Cruddace's are from Barnard Castle but unfortunately I am stuck in 1815 with William and still can't find him.... maybe he is related to your Robert.... I have been through all of the Barnard Castle transcripts looking for Cruddaces and there is this one

26 dec 1790   Baptism   robert son of robert and mary cruddas   on p167 of the Barnard Castle transcripts on www.familysearchlabs.org

I've only gone from 1785 to 1814, so if you look you might find some info either side. The transcripts go from 1762-1846.

Hope that helps

Claire

PS if you find a William anywhere I would be very grateful!!  :)            
Bettington/Mattey (Herefordshire) Jones (Wales/Shropshire) Forsyth (Durham) Nicholls (Sedgeley) Wright (N Yorkshire) Hankinson (Lancashire) Wray (yorkshire) Gray (Alton Hampshire)
Rouse (Oxfordshire) Waterhouse (Leicestershire) Ironmonger (Leicestershire) Cruddace (Durham) Young (Durham/Northbld)
Price (Blackburn/Wales) Turnbull (Durham) Walker (Durham)
Williamson (Durham) Hughes (Wales Bangor) Wiseman (Suffolk)
Rawlings(Glos) Smart (Glos) Bettsworth (Hamps) Dalton(Yorks) Robinson (Yorks/Dur)

Offline babybutterfly

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 7
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #29 on: Monday 27 July 09 10:24 BST (UK) »
Hi guys, and thank you for the welcome.
i did a bit more digging, and found a Robert who was christened on 26th Dec 1790 in Barnard Castle, might be the same one, his parents are showing as Thomas and Mary.

The only other one i found was in Staindrop, christened 02 March 1782, parents are showing only a mother Ann, no father, so im more inclined to think it was the first one, as Robert had siblings born after him, so there must have been a father.

Colin, where can i find out online about the marriage you mentioned?
i know on BMD the records only go back to 1837. Without more details i cant really order any cert's to confirm him.

Thanks

tracy
Cruddace / Lobb
Durham / Cumbria

Offline babybutterfly

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 7
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #30 on: Monday 27 July 09 10:31 BST (UK) »
PS if you find a William anywhere I would be very grateful!!  :)            




Claire, do you have membership on ancestry?
ive just had a look, and there is someone by the name of Cheryl on there that has a "private member story" about a William Cruddace born 1815.
it might not be the same william, but i guess its worth asking.

Tracy
Cruddace / Lobb
Durham / Cumbria


Offline littleclaire

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 385
  • Me!
    • View Profile
Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #31 on: Monday 27 July 09 10:35 BST (UK) »
Hello

I just had another look at the Bishops Transcripts and it definitely says Robert and Mary of Stainton on there. Where is your info from? It seems a huge coincidence that there are two on the same day in the same place. If yours are from the original records it could be that it was mistranscribed in the copy for the Bishop. There is only one cruddas baptism on that day on the transcripts.

Claire

Bettington/Mattey (Herefordshire) Jones (Wales/Shropshire) Forsyth (Durham) Nicholls (Sedgeley) Wright (N Yorkshire) Hankinson (Lancashire) Wray (yorkshire) Gray (Alton Hampshire)
Rouse (Oxfordshire) Waterhouse (Leicestershire) Ironmonger (Leicestershire) Cruddace (Durham) Young (Durham/Northbld)
Price (Blackburn/Wales) Turnbull (Durham) Walker (Durham)
Williamson (Durham) Hughes (Wales Bangor) Wiseman (Suffolk)
Rawlings(Glos) Smart (Glos) Bettsworth (Hamps) Dalton(Yorks) Robinson (Yorks/Dur)

Offline littleclaire

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 385
  • Me!
    • View Profile
Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #32 on: Monday 27 July 09 10:36 BST (UK) »
Ooooh I do Tracy.... will have a look.... thanks for that....

Claire
Bettington/Mattey (Herefordshire) Jones (Wales/Shropshire) Forsyth (Durham) Nicholls (Sedgeley) Wright (N Yorkshire) Hankinson (Lancashire) Wray (yorkshire) Gray (Alton Hampshire)
Rouse (Oxfordshire) Waterhouse (Leicestershire) Ironmonger (Leicestershire) Cruddace (Durham) Young (Durham/Northbld)
Price (Blackburn/Wales) Turnbull (Durham) Walker (Durham)
Williamson (Durham) Hughes (Wales Bangor) Wiseman (Suffolk)
Rawlings(Glos) Smart (Glos) Bettsworth (Hamps) Dalton(Yorks) Robinson (Yorks/Dur)

Offline littleclaire

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 385
  • Me!
    • View Profile
Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #33 on: Monday 27 July 09 10:37 BST (UK) »
PS Try this link for the Bishops Transcripts page. Not sure whether it will work or not

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1309819;w=280;p=imageBrowser
Bettington/Mattey (Herefordshire) Jones (Wales/Shropshire) Forsyth (Durham) Nicholls (Sedgeley) Wright (N Yorkshire) Hankinson (Lancashire) Wray (yorkshire) Gray (Alton Hampshire)
Rouse (Oxfordshire) Waterhouse (Leicestershire) Ironmonger (Leicestershire) Cruddace (Durham) Young (Durham/Northbld)
Price (Blackburn/Wales) Turnbull (Durham) Walker (Durham)
Williamson (Durham) Hughes (Wales Bangor) Wiseman (Suffolk)
Rawlings(Glos) Smart (Glos) Bettsworth (Hamps) Dalton(Yorks) Robinson (Yorks/Dur)

Offline babybutterfly

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 7
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #34 on: Monday 27 July 09 10:50 BST (UK) »
Hello

I just had another look at the Bishops Transcripts and it definitely says Robert and Mary of Stainton on there. Where is your info from? It seems a huge coincidence that there are two on the same day in the same place. If yours are from the original records it could be that it was mistranscribed in the copy for the Bishop. There is only one cruddas baptism on that day on the transcripts.

Claire


Hiya,

I got my info from familysearch.org, i typed in his name, and thats the info it came back with.
I have just looked at the link you sent, and i i am going to look into that possible link now, i am trying to find the actual birth record for Robert and Elizabeth's son James, i have his marriage cert, but cant find any records of his birth.
He was "of full age" when he got married in 1840, so if anyone can spot anything on that, id be very grateful  ;D

Tracy
Cruddace / Lobb
Durham / Cumbria

Offline littleclaire

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 385
  • Me!
    • View Profile
Re: Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas
« Reply #35 on: Monday 27 July 09 11:43 BST (UK) »
The only James I can find is James son of Robert and Martha Crudice of Copley, Labourer baptised Feb 4th 1816 in Cockfield p139 of Bishops Transcripts http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1309819;w=297;p=imageBrowser

I do have a marriage for a Robert and Martha in Barnard Castle
29 Dec 1804   Marriage   Robert Cruddas and Martha Harker   p323 Barnard Castle Transcripts

That wouldn't, however, fit in with your Robert born 1790 or Robert and Elizabeth.... but......

They did round the ages on the early censuses....... and Robert could have got remarried if Martha died.

Sorry I seem to be making your search more difficult rather than easier...... (but mother Martha does match up with having a daughter Martha......)

Sorry I seem to be making your search harder and not easier!

The marriage that Colin was talking about is here http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1309819;w=507;p=imageBrowser on p89
Unfortunately it doens't say whether he was a bachelor or a widow.

Sorry for not being more helpful, but it may have opened some avenues......

Claire


Bettington/Mattey (Herefordshire) Jones (Wales/Shropshire) Forsyth (Durham) Nicholls (Sedgeley) Wright (N Yorkshire) Hankinson (Lancashire) Wray (yorkshire) Gray (Alton Hampshire)
Rouse (Oxfordshire) Waterhouse (Leicestershire) Ironmonger (Leicestershire) Cruddace (Durham) Young (Durham/Northbld)
Price (Blackburn/Wales) Turnbull (Durham) Walker (Durham)
Williamson (Durham) Hughes (Wales Bangor) Wiseman (Suffolk)
Rawlings(Glos) Smart (Glos) Bettsworth (Hamps) Dalton(Yorks) Robinson (Yorks/Dur)