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Alfred Cogan - Lookup Request
« on: Friday 14 November 08 20:05 GMT (UK) »
Alfred Cogan, born Brighton, Sussex in 1884 emigrated to Canada after 1901.

A******y  has an entry for him in the Canadian Passenger List, arriving in Halifax, Nova Scotia, but I don't have worldwide subscription  :'(

Can somebody please look him up for me?

According to the WW1 Roll of Honour, his wife was Nellie and at the time of his death (6/11/1917 at Passchendale), she was living at 7 Lansdown Avenue, London, Ontario.

What I would like to know is was he married when he emigrated, or did he marry in Canada? If the latter, who did he marry and when?

Any help greatly appreciated,

Bob.
Haase, Buhl (Germany & London), Cogan, Coleman, Shaw (Sussex)

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Re: Alfred Cogan - Lookup Request
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 November 08 20:52 GMT (UK) »
I have found the following entry (although there is a pencil line scored through the entire entry - whatever that signifies )

Halifax, Nova Scotia on the Ultonia
May 1912
Liverpool to Halifax, Nova Scotia.
Alfred Cogan, 29, M(arried), born England, English, destination London, Ontario, occupation in country from which alien came Plumber, Intended occupation in Canada Plumber, C of E

There is no mention of a wife as far as I can see.

Nell
Kitching Elsbury Lawrence Last Ellington Govier Pawsey Rice Nevitt Napier Seymour


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Re: Alfred Cogan - Lookup Request
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 November 08 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nell,

Thanks very much for the info.  ;)

I'm sure it';s the right one, as the occupation matches and I know he ended up in London. Perhaps his wife joined him later.

Just checked A****** again and there is a Nellie Cogan who travelled to Quebec, don't know the year.

Bob.
Haase, Buhl (Germany & London), Cogan, Coleman, Shaw (Sussex)

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Re: Alfred Cogan - Lookup Request
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 November 08 21:06 GMT (UK) »
His attestation papers give
Alfred Cogan
128 Adelaide St London? Ont
Born Brighton Sussex England
Next of kin - Wife, address as above
Wifes name - Nellie Cogan
D of B Jan 19th 1884
Trade Painter
Married
Willing to be vaccinated
Does not belong to the Active Militia
Has served with Sussex Inf Brigade, Bearer? Co - 3 years
London Ont, 13 Dec 1915

I looked up the Nellie Cogan travelling to Canada but she was a child travelling with a family of Cogans. She did not look to be the correct Nellie.
Kitching Elsbury Lawrence Last Ellington Govier Pawsey Rice Nevitt Napier Seymour


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Re: Alfred Cogan - Lookup Request
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 November 08 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Free BMD has:
Alfred Cogan
Marriages Dec 1907
Brighton 2b 469
Nellie Whitney is on the same page


I cannot find anything else with either Alfred or Nellie's names
at the present. (Someone else might have sharper eyes than me :) )

Nell
Kitching Elsbury Lawrence Last Ellington Govier Pawsey Rice Nevitt Napier Seymour


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Re: Alfred Cogan - Lookup Request
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 November 08 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Nell,

Thanks for looking for Nellie.

I also found the marriage, after you said Alfred was listed as Married on the Passenger List.

Bob.
Haase, Buhl (Germany & London), Cogan, Coleman, Shaw (Sussex)

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Re: Alfred Cogan - Lookup Request
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 November 08 01:29 GMT (UK) »
There's a 1911 birth for a Constance M. Cogan, mmn Whitney, in Steyning.

http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action seems to show in 1920:
N. Cogan, b. 1887 (F)
C. Cogan, b. 1912 (F)
M. Cogan, b. 1916 (M)

I guess this is Nellie and children returning to Canada?
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Re: Alfred Cogan - Lookup Request
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 15 November 08 10:55 GMT (UK) »
The details for the previous reference are as follows:

Vessel - Metagama
Liverpool to Quebec
Departing - 30 Jul 1920
N. Cogan, wife, 33, county of last perm residence, England
A Cogan, 4, male
C Cogan, 8, female
Intending to settle in Canada

Nell
Kitching Elsbury Lawrence Last Ellington Govier Pawsey Rice Nevitt Napier Seymour


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Re: Alfred Cogan - Lookup Request
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 15 November 08 11:15 GMT (UK) »
You people are good!!! :) :) :)

I know that Nellie was in Canada when Alfred died in 1917 (from War Graves Commission site), so I assume she must have returned to England after his death, then gone back out again in 1920.

Their son (A or M) would have been born in Canada, as Nellie was living in London, Ontario when Alfred enlisted and also when he died.

It's interesting that Nellie describes herself as "Wife", rather than "Widow" in her 1920 return to Canada.


Thanks again for all the help,

Bob.

Haase, Buhl (Germany & London), Cogan, Coleman, Shaw (Sussex)

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