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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #45 on: Monday 03 October 16 04:18 BST (UK) »
Martin Family--buried at Knock Graveyard

1.  James Martin, Sr., of Carnamuck, died 1845, aged 82, married to Jane, d. 1848, aged 84.
2.  James Martin, Jr., merchant of Belfast, died 1844, aged 33.
2.  John, eldest son, of Glenview, merchant of Belfast, died 1855,  aged 61.
2.  Mary, eldest dau of James. Sr., married to John McNeill;  Mary died in 1830.
2.  Jane Martin, 3rd dau., died in 1874
2.  George Martin of Knock, 2nd son of James, Sr., died in 1880, aged 86.
2.  Ann Martin, 4th dau, died in 1889, aged 92.

On the same page there is the following, but my information is incomplete as I didn't copy the
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Robert Martin of Belfast, formerly of Carnamuck, who died March 28th, 1870, aged 83.  Also his.....?

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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #46 on: Monday 03 October 16 04:26 BST (UK) »
Descended from or just a coincidence:

1937--Thomas Rowland Michael Cardus, son of the Rev. T. A. B. Cardus of Devon, engaged to Patience Elizabeth, dau of the late A. McNeill Martin of The Pines, Broadstone, Dorset.

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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #47 on: Monday 03 October 16 05:02 BST (UK) »
There is this family, as well;  however, the names just might be coincidental with really no connection:

1901 census: of 105 Eglantine Ave., Windsor Ward
George Martin McNeill, 35, linen merchant
Annie Mary, wife  and children

1911 census:
Now of Deramore Park, Cromac
George Martin McNeill, 47, b. Belfast, boot manufacturer
Annie Mary, 42, wife
Mary Alice McNeill, 13, dau
William Martin McNeill, 11, son
Joseph Cuthbert McNeill, 8
Jean Lochhead McNeill, 7
George Edware McNeill, 4
Margaret Cuthbert McNeill

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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 15 October 16 11:56 BST (UK) »
Going by the information you've provided Pablo, I'm guessing you already know this, but I noticed that the Hill/Macauley and McNeill family can also be found on the 1851 census in Larne:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Upper_Glenarm/Larne/Larne/85/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Upper_Glenarm/Larne/Larne/87/



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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 15 October 16 11:57 BST (UK) »
I've also now got my hands on a copy of The Shining Bann by R. M. Sibbett (1928).  Here's the extract about the Hill family:

   The Rev. John Hill, Presbyterian minister, was the first of his name to reside in the manor of Cashel.  His son, John Hill, linen merchant, founded the Hillmount Bleachworks at Cullybackey, now among the largest and best-equipped of their kind in the world.
   Elizabeth, eldest daughter of John Hill, of Hillmount, married William Adams, of Portglenone, in 1789.  The two youngest members of the large family by this union – a son and a daughter – went to Australia.  There the former, Robert, became a successful sheep farmer, and the latter wed another colonist following the same occupation.  Harry Adams the last-born son of Robert Adams, acquired considerable fame as a skilful surgeon.  He died later near Wellington, New Zealand.  Captain Adams, the only son of Harry Adams, was killed in the Great War.  His sister, Lady Glenny Wilson, well known in the literary worlds, resides in New Zealand.
   George Hill Adams, M.D., Edinburgh, was another son of William Adams.  Practising for some years in Australia, he returned to London, and died at Notting Hill, unmarried.  Elizabeth, the eldest daughter of the worthy couple indicated, married the Rev. W. C. Wray, of Buckna, County Antrim.  One of the sons born of this union, Dr. Charles Wray, was appointed health officer of Brisbane.  He died there in 1902, of Bubonic plague, caught in the discharge of his duty.
   Ann Adams, the second daughter of William Adams, wed the Rev. Clarke Huston, D.D., Macosquin.  William, his fourth son, espoused Sarah Adair, daughter of Henry Newton Raphael of Galgorm.  Their son, George Hill Adams, was identified for some time with the York Street Flax Spinning Company, Ltd., Belfast.  Eventually he went to Australia, and still resides there, at Melbourne.
   Three of his sons served in the Great War - Captain George Hill Adams, M.C., Australian Artillery; Commander Bryan Fullerton Adams, R.N., D.S.O ; and Wm, Ronald Adams, Australian Field Ambulance.
   The last named is now a barrister in Melboune, holding a Government appointment.  His brother Bryan, by heroism, covered himself with glory.  The Naval Gazette, published some time after the Zeebrudde raid stated: "Lieut.-Commander Bryan F Adams led the naval storming party in the most gallant manner.  He was the first to land on the Mole.  Followed by his men, he bombed the German lookout, making it useless to them, etc., etc."
   Specially promoted Commander for his services, and given charge of his own ship, Bryan had conferred upon him the D.S.O. as an additional honour.  He was lately appointed to the Queen Elizabeth, stationed at Malta, where Sir George Keyes, K.C.B., flies his flag.
   The eldest sister of George Hill Adams wed the Rev. S. Thomson, B.A.  Another became the wife of James Gardiner, a Belfast merchant.  Of this marriage there were two sons, James, who succeeded his father in business, and Campbell, a successful medical practitioner.  A third sister was united in matrimony to the Rev. Clarke Huston Irwin, M.A., D.D., secretary of the Religious Tract Society.  A fourth sister, E. R. Adams, resides in Belfast.
   William Adams, son of Thomas Adams, and grandson of William Adams and Elizabeth Hill, resided in Portglenone, and was an elder in Third Portglenone Presbyterian Church.  His daughter, Annie Adams, who occupies the old mansion, maintains the high traditions of her family in the educational and musical spheres.
   The Rev. Dr. Park, one-time Moderator of the General Assembly, and many others, including solicitors, barristers, doctors, and men of business, could also claim descend from the Rev. John Hill.
   Other family associations may be traces through the Hills mentioned.  John Hill, of Hillmount, married Anne Barry, of Carrickfergus.  Anne Barry's mother was Anne Coleman, a daughter of Dr. John Coleman, of Carrickfergus.  Elizabeth Coleman, sister of Mrs. Barry, wed first Dr. Dobbin, of Belfast, and secondly Henry Ellis, barrister-at-law, Innisrush.  Mrs. Ellis was a grand-aunt to Elizabeth Hill, who married William Adams, Portglenone.  After the death of Henry Ellis, Mrs. Ellis resided for a time in WIlliam Adams's house, where she died.  Her letters, which are still preserved, show that she was quite a personality.
   The youngest child of John Hill married her cousin, George Hill, of Larne.  One of her daughters became the wife of a member of the McNeill family in Larne, related to the Portglenone McNeills.  A son and daughter born of this union wed a Portglenone sister and brother respectively.  The Larne McNeills, connected with the Hills of Hillmount, followed the legal profession.  A solicitor of their name consulted by the Grand Jurors of Cashel resided in a beautiful cottage at Glenone, the side of which is now occupied by James Heenan's residence.  He was half-brother to Dr. McNeill, Portglenone.

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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #50 on: Saturday 15 October 16 17:39 BST (UK) »
If the History of Carrickfergus can be believed, along with a couple of other extracts posted earlier in this thread, then the link to Dr John Coleman (mentioned in The Shining Bann) allows us to (sort-of) trace Anne Barry’s ancestry back to the 1500s which is a rare feat in Ulster genealogy!

1. Thomas CONLIN
2. Richard CONLAN/O’CONLIN, Sheriff of Carrickfergus in 1595
2. female CONLIN m. BUNCH
3. Ann BUNCH m. Garret REILEY (Ensign)
4. female REILEY m. Marlow REILEY
4. female REILEY m. James RICE
4. female REILEY m. John COLEMAN (Dr)
5. Anne COLEMAN m. Matthew BARRY
6. Anne BARRY (c1749-1831) m. John HILL

Fun fun.

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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #51 on: Saturday 15 October 16 18:07 BST (UK) »
Extract from the Ulster Directory of Doctors:
DOBBIN, JAMES (1681/2-1757), Belfast;
Born 1681/2, probably in Carrickfergus, county Antrim; studied medicine at Utrecht, Netherlands; MD (Utrecht) 1720 (thesis “De angina” in Leyden Library); married Elizabeth Coleman, with children born 1745-9; general practitioner of Belfast; died 1757; buried St Nicholas’s Church, Carrickfergus (no memorial extant); probate Prerogative Court 1757.

I wonder if these Dobbins are any relation to the Elizabeth Dobbin, grandmother of William Wilson who married Isabella Orr, daughter of the famous William Orr executed in 1797.

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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #52 on: Monday 17 October 16 07:06 BST (UK) »
Gilby, I am glad that were able to get your hands on a copy of The Shining Bann.  I hope that at least a few pages of it will prove useful.

Yes, I was already aware of George Macaulay's daughters, Mary Hill, and the McNeill family being documented in the 1851 census.  But still, many thanks for going to the trouble of making a post for me.  With best wishes, Paul.

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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 02 November 16 22:44 GMT (UK) »
James Moore of Ballydivity was married to Margaret Gilliland, my gggggggg aunt.  I’ve just found an extract of his will on Ancestry dated 1778-1783.  It mentions his sister Ann, widow of the Rev John Hill of Drumna, and her three sons John, Charles and James, also her daughters Mary Given wife of Wm. Givern, and Ann Edmiston wife of Hugh Edmiston.

Nephews Charles and James Hill were of Drumna (Drumra/Drumraw) while nephew John Hill was of Hillmount.  (This fits with the Deputy Court Cheque Book of 1776.)