James Muir and Mary Clark

[Tomscot]

Hi, I wonder if anyone can help,I have just started the Scottish branch of my family tree. I'm trying to trace my Grand parents birth dates.
      All the information I have is my mothers birth certificate, she was Alice Trotter Muir born August 28 1910, at 202, Possil Road Glasgow.
     James Muir was a Bricklayer Journeyman,his wife was  Mary Clark,they were married on 12 November 1897 in Glasgow.
      Any information on the above would be very much appreciated.
                                          Kind Regards
                                                                   Tomscot

[hume]

James Muir and Mary Clark were married November 12th 1897 at St Saviour's Episcopal Church, Glasgow

James was 20 and lived at 9 Water Street, Glasgow. His parents were William Muir, bricklayer (journeyman) and Elizabeth Muir m.s. (maiden surname) Bragg (deceased)

Mary was 19 and lived at 16 Water Street, Glasgow. Her parents were John Clark, iron moulder (journeyman) (deceased) and Alice White, previously Clark, m.s. Trotter

Witnesses were Hugh M'Colligan and Lizzie Muir

Will see if I can find them in 1901. Great work, Tom.

hume24

[tidybooks]

Hi tomscot,

I have found the family in 1901 census, at 9 Church Place, Milton, Glasgow,

James Muir 25  b 1876 Glasgow - Bricklayer
Mary Muir 22  b 1879 Glasgow - wife
William Muir 3  b 1898 Glasgow
James Muir 1  b 1900 Glasgow



Tom

[Tomscot]

Hi hume 24,
                  I dont know your name, but thanks a million for your help,from only having a birth certificate to go on you have given this infomation to go on.
                  Thank you very much for your help.
                                                  Kind Regards,
                                                                        Tomscot

[Tomscot]

  Hi Tom,
                I see we have the same name,I would like to thank you for the information you have given me, it has helped a a lot, it is very much appreciated.
                      Kind Regards
                                            Tom

[merryhow]

Hi Tom, found this for you on the IGI, WILLIAM MUIR = ELIZABETH BRAGG 30th Sept 1873 Dunfermline, FIFE. I can't see a birth for James but there is a JANE born to this couple on 25th Aug 1874 at Old Monklands LANARK.
   

    Val

[lesleydrake]

Hello Tom,
I have only recently discovered that my great grandfather William Muir was married, and had other children. My grandmother Frances “Fanny” Muir was born in 1893 illegitimate daughter of William Muir and Elizabeth Macarthur nee Donnelly, in Church Place Glasgow.
Elizabeth Bragg was still alive at the time, but in an asylum.
This means, I think, that we are cousins. There are lots of poorhouse records concerning Elizabeth Macarthur, and William Muir in the Mitchell library. He died in 1899.
His parents were James Muir and Jane Wilson but can’t find their marriage.
Have found Elizabeth Bragg had 2 illegitimate children Catherine and George who took the name Muir, and 7 legitimate children, at least 3 of whom died young.
There is mention of Elizabeth Braggs father George being in trouble with the law, domestic abuse and drink. Can’t find her birth in Dunfermline c1845.
Anyway, really excited to find out about Williams family and many potential cousins!

Lesley

[rosie17]

Hi Lesley and welcome to rootschat Tomscot has not been active on here since 2017 if his contact details are the same he will receive a notification you have posted and hopefully reply

Rosie

[greeneyedgirl]

Bits from Scotlandspeople:
James Muir born 1876 Milton
Mary Clark born 1877 Kelvin

William Muir born 1857 Airdrie
Elizabeth Bragg born  ?
                           died: 6 Sept 1896 in City Poorhouse-Glasgow

Some children of William & Elizabeth:
George 1871 Dunfermline
Jane 1874 Old Monkland
James 1876 Milton
Elizabeth 1878 Kelvin
William 1879 Milton
Robina 1885 Milton
Robert Alexander died 1887 St Rollox
William died age 3 1883 Bridgeton



John Clark + Alice Trotter married 1876 Kelvin

James Muir + Jane(Jean)Wilson married
12 July 1845 Loudoun

George Bragg died 17 Apr 1880 age 59 ? Dumfermline p. John Bragg/Elizabeth Winter
Catherine McColl Bragg died 13 Apr 1881 age 75 Milton

George Bragg + Catherine McColl(McCoul) married 8 May 1842 Edinburgh

Catherine McColl born 31 July 1821 Glasgow to Duncan McColl/Janet Anderson