Elizabeth Dickinson (nee Jardine) - Langholm

[kaz]

Hello,

I am wondering if its possible to find more info on an Elizabeth Dickinson/Jardine  born 1899 in Langholm.
On Jan 8 1918 she married Roy Dickinson (in E.U Congregational House, Langholm). Her father was Martin Jardine and mother Elizabeth Johnstone.Unfortunately Roy died in October of that same year.Both times(for the marriage and a notice on CWGC )the address 108, High St., Langholm was mentioned.

Is this the Jardine family residence? Can i find more info about it and who lived there?
Is it possible to find out what happened to Elizabeth afterwards....?

Grateful for any help or advice as to where to go to now.

Kaz

[AMBLY]

Hi Kaz

1891: 33 Eskdaill St  - Langholm, Dumfries-shire
Parish: 839, ED 2, HS 182
Head: Joseph JARDINE 50, Gardener's Labourer, b Annan, Dumfries-shire
Wife: Jane JARDINE 60, b Dalton, Dumfries Shire
Dau: Ann JARDINE 23, Woollen Weaver, b Middlebie, Dumfries Shire
Dau: Elizabeth JARDINE 16, Dressmaker Apprentice, b Langholm, Dumfries Shire
Grand-Dau: Jane JARDINE 6, Scholar, b Langholm, Dumfries Shire
Visitor/Son: Martin JARDINE 21, House Painter, b Middlebie, Dumfries-shire

1891:  South Trinity Street - Hawick Roxburghshire
Parish: 789, ED 6, HS 46
Head: David JOHNSTONE 58?? (or 68?), Woolen Patt'n Weaver, b Gretna, Dumfriesshire
Wife: Elizabeth JOHNSTONE 61, Annan, Dumfriesshire
Dau: Elizabeth JOHNSTONE 22, Woolen Winder, b England
Boarder:  Elizabeth JOHNSTONE 3, b Hawick, Roxburghshire
Boarder: Joseph JARDINE 5 mths, b Hawick, Roxburghshire

1901: 4 & 6 Rosevale Street - Langholm, Dumfries-shire
Parish: 839, ED 8, HS44
Head: Martin JARDINE 31, Painter & Paperhanger , b Middlebie, Dumfriesshire
Wife: Eliz'th JARDINE 39, b England
Son: Joseph JARDINE 10, b Scholar, b Hawick, Roxburghshire
Son: David JARDINE 8, Scholar, b Langholm, Dumfriesshire
Son: James JARDINE 3, b Langholm, Dumfriesshire
Dau: Eliz'th JARDINE 1, b Langholm, Dumfriesshire

1901: George St 14  - Langholm, Dumfries-shire
Parish: 839, ED
Head: Joseph JARDINE 60, Nursery man, b Annan, Dumfrieshire
Wife: jane JARDINE 70, b Dalton, Dumfrieshire
Dau: Ann JARDINE 23?? (should be 33?) Woolen Weaver, b Middlebie, Dumfrieshire
Dau: Elizabeth JARDINE 25, Dressmaker, b Langholm, Dumfrieshire
Dau: Jane JARDINE 16, Woolen Winder, b Langholm, Dumfrieshire
Grandson: James Dobie JARDINE 11, Scholar, b Langholm, Dumfrieshire

You'd need to confirm ages (Elizabeth JOHNSTONE.....and her father David) and marital staus , per the original images.

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

In 1901, the address 108 High Street was occuppied by a family of Joseph and Agnes C TURNBULL and their children, and also a Peter HOGG.

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

1881: 5 Back Eskdaill St, Langholm, Dumfries-shire
Parish: 839, ED 2, HS 183, page 39
Head: Jane JARDINE 48, married, b Dalton, Dumfries
Dau: Annie JARDINE 13, Scholar, b Middlebie, Dumfries
Son: Martin JARDINE 11, Scholar, b Middlebie, Dumfries
Son: Charles JARDINE 8, Scholar, b Middlebie, Dumfries
Dau: Elizabeth JARDINE 5, b Langholm, Dumfries

1881: Fauldbrae Cottage, Eskdalemuir, Dumfries-shire
Parish 824  , ED 1 , HS 13, Page 5
Head: Thomas CARMICHAEL 50, Agricultural Labourer, b Dalton, Dumfries
Wife: Ellen CARMICHAEL, 48,  b Tobermory, Argyll
And their 7 children all born Hutton & Corrie, Dumfries
Plus 4 Lodgers who are all male Agricultural labourers, (2 of whom are married men)  including:
Lodger: Joseph JARDINE 40, married, Agricultural Laborer, b  Annan, Dumfries-shire

1881: 9 Langlands Bank  - Wilton, Roxburghshire
Parish: 810, ED 9, HS 171, page 42
Head; David JOHNSTON 65, Woolen handloom Weaver, b Gretna, Dumfriesshire
Wife: Elizabeth  JOHNSTON 51,  b Annan, Dumfriesshire
Dau (sic) : John JOHNSTON, 17, unm, Wool Power Loom Weaver , b Gretna, Dumfriesshire
Dau: Elizabeth JOHNSTONE 12, Scholar, b England

Cheers
AMBLY

[kaz]

Ambly,

Thanks so much - Those are def. my families as i have now got a copy of the Martin Jardine/Eliz. Johnstone marriage which confirms parents.(I love free credits!!)

Best wishes,

Kaz

[Jan Wood]

Hi Elizabeth Jardine  was my Granny! When Roy Dickinson died she eventually married Harold Wood Hull who was my Grandfather. They lived in Sheffield - she was an amazing woman. My parents and I lived with then until I was 9.

She had one son Ian Hull, (my Dad) born on January 9th 1926 he is still alive but has Alzheimer's disease and no longer knows us . My Mother strangely enough was called Ada Dickinson, she lives near me in North Wales. We still have family in Langholm - in fact we are going there next week. 

Granddad was a keen photographer - we think he was a friend of Roy's - we have lots of stories about his death and photographs and postcards her sent her too.   

All of that generation have now died, but the children of Gran's sister Jean are still alive the eldest is in her late 80s and still very active. Gran suffered a lot in the war losing Roy and two of her 3 brothers. The eldest Brother David emigrated to the States.  I presume you must be a part of Roy's family? Jan

[kaz]

Hi,

Wow its great to know what happened to Elizabeth!
My grandmother is the daughter of Caroline Dickinson (Roys younger sister).

I will PM you and we can share info!
Thanks for getting in touch,
Kaz

[Jan Wood]

I have no idea how you will 'PM' me!!I'm new to this -  It was reallly strange  the way I saw your post - My eldest son had phoned me to ask for my cousins address in Langholm, I couldn't remember the post code but as I was working just on the off-chance I 'Googled' my cousins name in Langholm - and in the sites that came up - the first one I opened had your message! So I had to join to answer it.  We know very little about Roy - there was some suggestion at one time that Dad was his son - we didn't know when he had died - that clearly can't be true. There is also a story that one of his officers was very much in love with my Grandmother but she would not have anything to do with him and so he sent Roy off on his last 'mission' knowing that he would be unlikely to return.  Many of the tales came from Auntie Jean (Jane) who was my Gran's younger sister - she had three daughters and a son and stayed in Langholm,  She married William Telfer who was about 20 years older then she was. They lived in Eskdaill Street for many years. I used to spend my holidays there when I was young and we always went to the Common Riding. I think Gran was very 'damaged by Roy's death and the death of her 2 brothers in the war -  she was very anti war and government, she spent a lot of time and money during the 2nd World War helping the Jews in Germany and looking back I think she was often very sad.    Rosevale Street was the family house and also the telephone exchange so my Great Grandmother knew everything that was going on in Langholm. Great Grandfather (Martin) was killed when he fell from the school roof and left My Great Grandmother with the three boys Gran and Jean as a very small baby they had a hard time. Most of the family spread around the world - some in Australia - USA - some lived in Nairobi and the Middle East. Gran Died in Wales, she came to live in the small town I live in, she had Alzheimer's Disease too and often thought she was back in Langholm.   

[Eskdale10]

The Remembering my Soldier project which began at Langholm Academy in 2017 has extensive information about Roy Dickinson and the Jardine family which might be of interest to the above members if they were to be in touch.