chauveau of clerkenwell

[hoople]

Lewis N. Cheveaux at 2, Nicholas St. Chester with wife Ann C. in 1881, while the rest of his family are in Brigstock Rd. Croydon.
Louis Jnr. is the 17 year old in his father's household at 293 Albany Rd. in 1851.
The middle child of Louis Nicolas Chauveau and Jane(nee Watkins) is Edward John Chauveau, born 1865 at 40, Great Sutton St.Clerkenwell. Informant of birth on cert. is Jane herself. The only time, up to now, that she can be placed outside Knighton.
What could link a remote Welsh border village and the vast metropolis of London?
Just to throw a little relevant/irrelevant titbit in here, a lodger in the household of Jane Watkins' grandmother in the 1861 census of Knighton is a John Owens, a Goods Agent, of Clerkenwell.
I am still awaiting the marriage cert. of Louis Nicolas Chauveau + Jane Baalham
1866 at St.John Baptist, Shoreditch. Please stay with me until then, your help has been invaluable. Thanks.

[Arranroots]

Here's a little more, then I have to give up for today!

1891 census

RG12/590/102/7

CHODEAUX
Davis N H M 57 - principal war office - London Southwark
Maria F E W M 37 - London Pimlico
Rose B dau U 28 - Surrey Camberwell
Henry M son 17 - merchant's clerk - Surrey Thornton Heath?
Allan E C son 16 - scholar - do
Harold C son 14 - do - do
Arthur F son 13 - do - do
Nigel C son 2 - do
Frank C son 2 - do
+ 3 servants

Address: 116 Binglook?, Croydon, Surrey

So in 1891 Louis junior has two households full of children!  Not sure, but I think (hope!) some of them are duplicated in the two houses.  Will check tomorrow!

My guess would be that Jane was a servant somewhere along the line and I am kicking myself for not transcribing those in the households as I went along - they are invariably useful!

Kind regards, Arranroots 

[hoople]

Marriage cert. of Louis Chauveau to Jane Baalham now arrived. Help!
1866 May 21st. at Parish church of St.John the Baptist, Hoxton.
Cert. states : Louis Chauveau-- Full Age-- Bachelor-- Shopkeeper-- 28 St.John St.-- Father's Name: Louis Chauveau-- Occ: Merchant.

Jane Baalham--Full Age-- Spinster--65,Great Chart St.-- Father's Name: Henry Baalham-- Carpenter.

[PaulineJ]

There's NO St John Street ( shoreditch) in either the 1861 or 1871 street index.

Great Chart St. is rg9/239 fol 50-68

Pauline

[jorose]

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18250630-72-defend412&div=t18250630-72#highlight
 

The Times, Tuesday, Aug 01, 1854; pg. 1; Issue 21808; col A
 - marriage of Louis Nicholas Choveaux, Esq, of her Majesty's Ordnance, to Ann Clara Farrell, daughter of Saml Farrell, Esq, of Park-street, Camberwell.

The Times, Friday, Feb 20, 1863; pg. 1; Issue 24487; col A
On the 18th inst, at Park-street, Camberwell, of hooping-cough, Florence, the beloved child of L. N. Choveaux, Esq, of the war office, aged 2 years and 8 months.

The Times, Friday, Nov 18, 1864; pg. 3; Issue 25033; col A
Advertisement for "The Library Company", branch offices, include:
Battersea - Mr Choveaux - Bridge-road West.

The Times, Monday, Apr 25, 1892; pg. 1; Issue 33621; col A
 On the 2rd April, at Bromley, Kent, the wife of Louis N. Choveaux, Junior, of a daughter.

The Times, Friday, Feb 23, 1912; pg. 1; Issue 39829; col A
On the 21st inst, at Minehead, Louis Nicholas Choveaux, late of the War Office, aged 78. Funeral at Nunhead on Monday, 26th, at 3pm.


Relevant to the reputed occupation of Louis at his children's birth - at 28 St. John Street in Smithfields in 1895 there was a stained glass works ('Windmill Yard'). Not sure about earlier on. (Also there was a St. John Street in Clerkenwell).

[wozzle]

if i remember rightly(having worked at smithfield 30 years ago) st johns street clerkenwell and st johns street smithfield are one and the same.
all the best
mick.

[Valda]

1851 census HO107 1781 folio 441
North Street Colchester Essex
Henry Baalham 47 Head Married Carpenter
Ann Baalham 48 Wife Married 
Jane A Baalham 9 Daughter
Sarah L Baalham 6 Daughter
all born Colchester

Births Sep 1841   
Baalham  Jane Ann    Colchester  12 57

Which doesn't tie in with the Jane in Knighton in 1871.

1871 census RG10 5?95 folio 17
Knighton Radnorshire
George Watkins 60 Head Widower Builder employing 4 men Knighton Radnorshire
Elizabeth Watkins 29 Daughter Unmarried Dressmaker Knighton Radnorshire
Jane Chaveau 37 Daughter Married Paper Dyer's wife Knighton Radnorshire
George Chaveau 10 Grandson Knighton Radnorshire
Edward J Chaveau 5 Grandson London Middlesex
George Watkins 11 Grandson Knighton Radnorshire
Rose Watkins 9 Granddaughter Knighton Radnorshire
Fanny Watkins 7 Granddaughter Knighton Radnorshire
Caroline Lewis 55 Sister-in-law Widow No Occupation Knighton Radnorshire

So the three known sons are

Births Jun 1860   
Chauveau  Louis George     Knighton  11b 172
Marriages Dec 1882     
Chanvean  Lewis George     Liverpool  8b 73

Births Sep 1865   
Chauveau  Edward John     Clerkenwell  1b 579
Marriages Mar 1893   
Chauveau  Edward John     Merthyr T.  11a 738

Births Dec 1868   
CHAUVEAU  Alfred William     Knighton  11b 155
Deaths Mar 1870   
Chanvran  Alfred William  1  Knighton  11b 135

plus death of their mother

Deaths Jun 1877   
Chauveau  Jane  45  Knighton  11b 111


I can't see the family on the 1861 census.


Regards

Valda

[danny_chev]

Was any light thrown on a Louis George Chauveau and Jane Watkins marriage c.1860?

A record of Jane working as a nurse aged 18 in the Rectory at Bedstone nr Knighton is on the 1851 Census

Son George is my Great Grandfather so would like to know more.   There seems to have been a few Louis Nicholas Chauveau or Choveaux's along the way and an enormous amount of offspring!

Thanks
Dan

[danny_chev]

Hoople, Regarding your original question, I have a bit more information if there's still interest:
Louis Nicholas Chauveau b.1835 at Quarre les Tombes, Yonne, France.
Father, Louis Elisabeth b.1806 at Quarre, d.1862 Asnieres sur Seine.  Mother, Pierrette Boussard b. 1809 at Quarre. Siblings, Marie Louise b.1843, Eugene Marie b.1848
Louis Nicholas married Jane Watkins (b.1832 at Knighton d.1877) at Asnieres where Jane was working as maid.
They had 4 children, my great grandfather Louis George (b.1860 Knighton, d.1935 Liverpool),
Edward John (b.1865 St Johns, London d. 1948 Cardiff), Lucien Eugene (b.1867 Clerkenwell, London d.1867 Paris aged 2 months),
Alfred William (b.1868 Knighton, d.1870). No record of Louis Nicholas death or burial found yet, but the other records are in my Ancestry.com page including marriage record, please contact me for details.
There appears to be a separate dynasty of Louis Nicholas Choveauxs named after each other, continuing to the present day originally from London which muddies the waters. The Jane Baalam marriage may be to one of these.
Cheers, Dan