1851 census lookup request-COMPLETED

[Mum44]

Hello all -  I would just like to say that I am still following this avidly - but don't feel I can add anyting to help -  Geoff and Heywood are doing great 

[GeoffE]

I'm cooking chips, so can't say much.

As I said, Mary HOOTON was buried in 1869, so it would be somewhat macabre to find her with Edward in 1871.

The woman that Edward married in 1862 was the one he had been "married" to for 40 odd years.

[heywood]

Yes I would like to think that- and if you are right Geoff, then Frances Buckingham the witness may be Mary Hooton's grandaughter (daughter of Mary (2) ) Otherwise I am stuck again with working it out.

[GeoffE]

then Frances Buckingham the witness may be Mary Hooton's grandaughter (daughter of Mary (2) )

Agreed

As regards relationships on censuses, I found one (relating to my tree) yesterday - a mother in law described as Cousin.

Mary WISHLADE (1810) remained unmarried to the end of her days.

[GeoffE]

Thanks Geoff,
one question,
are we sure that the 1901 Mary Wishlade was the servant one? I say this because of the granddaughter she's living with.The girl is Mary Elizabeth Wishlade daughter of John Wishlade and Selina Wollerton.  In other words stepgrandaughter to Edward Hooton from the marriage of Mary Wishlade and Edward Hooton in 1862.

No.  Mary E WISHLADE 26 with who she was with in 1901 was daughter of John WISHLADE who was baptised as son of Mary (1810) in 1836.  This family were in Leake in 1881, indexed as WHITEHEAD I believe.  So Mary E was granddaughter of Mary as far as I am concerned.

Mary, (the elder one from Eastbourne) who married Edward in 1862 died in 1869 ... their son John was born c1827 and was a HOOTON (sometimes) and should not be confused with the son of Mary(2) bap 1836.

[heywood]

you're very convincing!

So if this is the case- it seems so simple after all that work- well done Geoff!

Mary Wood becomes Wishlade then lives with later marries Edward Hooton
her children
1) Mary Wishlade
2) John Hooton
3) Caroline Hooton
4) Eliza Hooton
5) Selina Hooton
6) James Hooton

Mary Wishlade (daughter) - her children
1)Frances
2)John
3)Bales

Seems sad that daughter Mary's child Frances was in workhouse for a long time and that we can't find her son John in 1851 census.

othwerwise - hopefully this is it!!

 

[GeoffE]

I think Mary (1) was WISHLADE, illegitimate of father WOOD.  If she had been WOOD, I doubt several of their kids would have middle name had WISHLADE.

You forgot the elusive Edward HOOTON 1818.

Not only are we missing John (1836) in 1851, I don't think we have him in 1841 do we?

And Edward HOOTON and his wife (to be) are missing in 1861.

I think we've been more thorough than normal in this one as our starting point was in the 1830s, not realising the marriage we were searching for was in 1862.

[heywood]

I think Mary (1) was WISHLADE, illegitimate of father WOOD.  If she had been WOOD, I doubt several of their kids would have middle name had WISHLADE. Sorry- I was thinking she had the relationship with Mr Wood and perhaps called herself that -I was calling Mary (2) Wood/Wishlade but it is the first one!!

You forgot the elusive Edward HOOTON 1818. So I did! I was taking the names from 1841 census!

Not only are we missing John (1836) in 1851, I don't think we have him in 1841 do we? No we don't!

And Edward HOOTON and his wife (to be) are missing in 1861. Perhaps they were making wedding plans tucked away somewhere! I wonder why they went to get married there? With Frances too - who she hadn't looked after earlier!

I think we've been more thorough than normal in this one as our starting point was in the 1830s, not realising the marriage we were searching for was in 1862. You have done a splendid job!

[GeoffE]

I must confess, it was only this morning following your post last night of 22:07 that I realised who had got married in 1862.  The thought of a pair of 70year olds running off to London to wed hadn't previously occurred to me after their 40+ years of cohabitation.  The consistency of Mary (1810) in her service of the WALTHAMs ruled her out of things.