James Smith

[northern boy]

Can anyone help? Im looking for parents of James Smith.. He was born in (i think) Nether Kellet 1831. Then moved to bradford at a later date and married a lady caled Margaret.. Any help would be good. Thanks.

[Tati]

Hi Northern Boy,

Just to check which James we are talking about - is this him in 1881?

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=24432633
RG11/4448 83 26

[northern boy]

Yes the numbers match. I cant access your link tho. He had 7 children some  girls with the names of  Selina,Polly and Charlotte. They were all born Bradford and lived at 2 School Court Bradford. Hope this helps.

[Tati]

Hmmm. The 1881 census gives his birth place as Lancashire not known but it's Yorkshire Bradford in 1871 and 1861

1871
RG10/4460 54 19
Bradford, Yorkshire
2 School Court
James Smith, head, 45, Broker
Margret, wife, 42
Emily, dau, 19, Stuff Weaver
Selina, dau, 16, ditto
Sam, son, 13, scholar
Polly, dau, 12, Mill Girl
Charlotte, dau, 10, ditto
Elizabeth A, dau, 7, scholar
Koleny?, dau, 5, scholar
Oualter?, son, 2

All born Bradford

[Tati]

1861
RG9/3320 45 4
Bradford, Yorkshire
67 North Wing
James Smith, head, 32, Machine Broker, b. Bradford
Margaret, wife, 30, Power Loom Worsted Weaver, b. do.
Emily, dau, 10, scholar, b. do.
Selina, dau, 4, scholar, b. do.
Sam, son, 2, b. do.
Polly, dau, 1, b. do.
Mark Smith, lodger, mar, 30, Lab Iron Foundry, b. do.

[Tati]

Any idea whether Margaret's maiden name was Holdsworth?

In 1851, there's a this couple

1851
HO107/2307 300 10
Bradford, Yorkshire
44 North Wing
Manoah Holdsworth, head, 53, Bill Poster, b. Horton
Betty, wife, 52, b. Haworth
....
....
James Smith, son in law, mar, 23, Power Loom Overlooker (Worsted), b. Heptonstall
Margeret Smith, dau, mar, 22, Power Loom Weaver (Worsted), b. Manningham

This isn't taking us to Lancashire at all 

[northern boy]

Hmmmm this is why I'm in a muddle. One site has James born Lancashire NK.. Someone told me that was Nether Kellet but it could be not known. Don't know about Koleny/Oualter. He did have Boy Arthur born 1869 (ggrandad) I'll just have to get some birth certificates. Thanks for your help. Margaret's name was holdsworth.

[Tati]

On censuses, NK usually means not known - I've seen it very often. Given all other censuses show him born in Yorkshire, I'd take Lancashire with a pinch of salt.

Koleny must be Ada and Oualter Arthur but it doesn't look anything like it on the 1871 census page!

If they were mine, the certificate I'd try to get now is the marriage cert for James and Margaret - it should show James' father's name and occupation.