'unknown' father discovered

[Abiam2]

I have discovered the name of my Great Grandmother's father.  She, Alice, was born to Jane Tubb in 1833 in Hungerford Union and the father was Joseph Bint of Shefford Woodlands, Berkshire.  He was adjudged to be the father and ordered to pay costs of lying in and maintenance by the Overseers.

I have found  families by the name of Bint in Hungerford on IGI but no Joseph.  Can anyone help, please?  Jane Tubb went on to have two further illegitimate daughters of which I can find nothing as the Overseer's papers stop at 1834.

It appears that Jane never married.  Anything further would be appreciated,
Thank you,
Abiam

[Isobelruss]

I suppose you have the 41 census details,but in case you havent

Charles Tubb 55 ag lab
Elizabeth 50
Jane 28
Alice 7
Sarah 5 or 5mths
all born in county
Smitham Bridge Hungerford Union

[Abiam2]

I have enquired about this address before.  The parents of Jane lived at Smitham Bridge for many years.  It was on the '41 census that I found 'Hungerford Union, Smitham Bridge'.  I think there must have been housing as well as on the '61 the address is just Smitham Bridge.
I hope they weren't all in the Union for 20+ years!
Thank you,
Abiam

[behindthefrogs]

The Union also served as the local hospital for the poor and so it was possibly no more than a temporary visit for the birth of the child.

David

[newburychap]

I have enquired about this address before.  The parents of Jane lived at Smitham Bridge for many years.  It was on the '41 census that I found 'Hungerford Union, Smitham Bridge'.  I think there must have been housing as well as on the '61 the address is just Smitham Bridge.
I hope they weren't all in the Union for 20+ years!

I'm not sure where Smitham Bridge is/was but Smitham Bridge St today is on the other side of town from where the workhouse was (Park St).  Hungerford Union could refer to the area, not necessarily the workhouse itself.

[behindthefrogs]

That makes a lot of sense.  It would seem to just be a reference which says that the overseers of Hungerford Union were ordering the father to pay lying in and maintenance costs.  This is what one would normally expect.

David

[heywood]

Free BMD has a marriage:

June quarter 1841 Hungerford Joseph Bint and Sarah Hayes

I think this must be him
1851 HO107; Piece: 1685; Folio: 493; Page: 6

Church Speen Berkshire

Joeshy Bint head maried 39 yrs ag lab b Hants .Whitchurch
Sarah wife 34 yrs b Berks Lambourne
Ann 8 yrs b Shefford
Mary 6 yrs b Shefford
Cathleen 3 yrs b Shefford
William 1 month b Shefford

[Abiam2]

Hi Heywood, thank you,
In 1851 Alice was 17 and Jane's other daughters were Sarah 14 and Elizabeth 7.   So hopefully Joseph Bint didn't father them as all his children with his wife Sarah were all born within their marriage, 1841. And he was quite occupied there!

I suppose it means buying certificates if I want to find out who their Fathers were!  I am not keen to spend money on these as they are 'twigs' on my father's tree.  if the lottery comes up they will be first on the list!

I don't suppose anyone has details of the Hungerford Union after 1834 especialy 1836 and 1844?

Thank you, Davd. 
I imagine Jane was in the hospital part of Hungerford Union when she had Alice.
The address on the 1841 census says Smith Bridge Hungerford Union looking further on FindMyPast it say Registration District Hungerford Union so that makes more sense.

Just an aside - This family are found on the censuses as Tubb, Jubb and Tabb!
Regards,
Abiam

[newburychap]

I don't suppose anyone has details of the Hungerford Union after 1834 especialy 1836 and 1844?

www.workhouses.org.uk has the basic information - such as the constituent parishes; when the workhouse was built (1847); and what was in use before (old parish houses at Lambourn and in Charnham St).

It also shows what related documents the BRO hold - which includes the Guardians minute books as far back as 1835 (ie to the year the Union was founded).

Some later (1866-1917) records have been transcribed by Eureka and are available from them or from Berks FHS (www.berksfhs.org.uk).

The Victoria County History will give a general history of each constituent parish.