COMPLETED - death request - Robert L WILSON

[KarenM]

Do you have any of these families in the census?

Karen

[shaunadavid]

I have very little info on the family other then from other chatters, death records and obits. I was trying to expand the information that I read in some of those books to see if it was the same family. So much of the information is the same, there has to be a fairly close connection.

I have Jane Wilson and her family. I have Mary wilson and her family, but I am trying to make the leap from their father back and it is difficult. The father was Alexander Wilson b. 1802-1806 in Scotland as per the info from a chatter from the death record. The funeral card gave me is Lot and Concession. From the scottish naming patterns (which they seemed to be very staunch Scottish folk) Jane named their first 2 children George and Alexdr. and in Mary's family the first 2 children are Nellie and Agnes and a third Louisa.

Jane's family - can't find in the 1881 census. They might have been intrasit as they moved west.

Mary's family from the 1881 census as tehy weren't married by the 1851 census
 Name  Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion
 James BOOTY   M   Male   English   29   O <Ontario>   Plasterer   United Presbyterian 
 Mary BOOTY   M   Female   Scottish   32   O <Ontario>                  United Presbyterian 
 Agnes BOOTY      Female   English   5      O <Ontario>                   United Presbyterian 
 Louisa BOOTY      Female   English   4     O <Ontario>                   United Presbyterian 
 Nellie BOOTY        Female   English   2     O <Ontario>                    United Presbyterian 
 Agnes WILSON    Female   Scottish   20   O <Ontario>   Teacher   United Presbyterian 

Alexander named his first few kids - Mary, Robert, Jane and Elizabeth. From the 1852 census I have Alex living with his wife and 2 other wilson, I suspect to be his parents judging by the age. They are in Canda West, Waterloo County, N. Dumfries TWP:
47 Wilson, Robt    Farmer     Scotland Presbyterian   50 M
48 Wilson, Mary                    Scotland Presbyterian   54 F
49 Wilson, Alexdr Labourer  Scotland Presbyterian   25 M
50 Wilson, Agnes                  Scotland Presbyterian   25 F

However, they are supposed to have 2 kids and I think a light bulb just went on. This may be the wrong family unless they forgot to count the kids in the enumeration since they are the bottom of the page. Hmm, I wonder. Thanks again for the aha moment. Now I really need to find the land records for Alexander. I guess, they also could have been mistaken about when the kids were born.

Oh well, I guess I'm back to square one Mary, Jane and Elizabeth. I KNOW these lines. Any suggestions or  help now? lol

[KarenM]

Ok, here is your Jane's marriage right?

Jane Robinson Wilson
Age:  19 years
Residence when married:  North Dumfries
Place of birth:  North Dumfries, Ontario
Single
Father:  Alexander Wilson
Mother:  Agnes Brown

James Oliver
Age:  24 years
Residence when married:  Galt, Ontario
Place of birth:  Scotland
Bachelor
Occupation:  Drover
Father:  George Oliver
Mother:  Elizabeth Turnbull

Witnessess:  John Brown, North Dumfries & Robert L. Wilson, Galt, Ontario
Date of Marriage:  Feb. 19, 1873
North Dumfries, County of Waterloo

Religion of Both:  Presbyterian
Reg. No. 012771


K

[KarenM]

Here is Alexander and Agnes with their children in the 1881....

Elizabeth
Helen
Agnes
Alice
David
Maggie
+ Harry Strangeway

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008196279.pdf

[shaunadavid]

yep thats the Alex and Agnes line and the marriage of James and Jane, which proves that "an" Alexander Wilson is married to a Mary Agnes Brown, both names are very common in Upper Canada. Alex and Mary Agnes were married 22 Jan 1847 in Gore District, but I can't find any more on their marriage, like you did for James and Jane. That would be nice if I could. I'm going to try a request for the will of Alexander to see if that tells me anything more

In the census you have, Henry Strangeway ends up marrying Elizabeth, but then I loose them.

Any more suggestions on making the link from Alex to his father, most likely Robert, possibly Lundie, Wilson? Oh, do you have the 61 or the 71 census that you can send me the actual image so I can see it. One of the children is a Robert Lxxxxx Wilson, but someone told me it was illegible. It looked like leonidis but then they thought it was Lundie, hence why I think the father of Alex is Robert Lundie/Lundy Wilson. Thanks again Karen. I'm going to see if I can fill out this line a bit mroe and maybe find a clue or two.

S

[Jacquie in Canada]

I believe I found Mary and her brother Robt at the top of page 13a on the 1851 census in North Dumfries:

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1851_pdf/e095/e002370529.pdf

The unhelpful part is that the names at the bottom of page 12a are not Wilson but McCleish. The entry with Robert, Mary, Alexander and Agnes are the last four on page 2a. It is quite possible that when information was being transcribed into the census book that pages were mixed up. There are actually four pages that make up each entry on that census. The entries for Robert, Mary, Alexander and Agnes indicate that they are in a log house and that there are two families sharing it. That same information appears for Mary and her brother. The information with the McCleish family indicates that there is only one family living in their home. This would seem to lend credence to my theory about a mix-up with the entries.

There is a death registration in the Ontario deaths database at Ancestry for Alexander Wilson who died 5 Nov 1903 at the age of 77 in Waterloo County. There are no details as to parents or wife (other than it says he was married, not widowed) but his address is listed as Lots 21 & 22, Concession 12. If you would like a copy of the image, please PM me your email address and I'll send it to you.

There are also these marriages in the Ontario marriage database at Ancestry for:
Helen Wilson (23) to George B Thompson on 25 Jan 1882 in Waterloo
Agnes Wilson (23) to George Edwd McGill on 22 Jul 1884 in Waterloo
Margaret Wilson (23) to William G Dawson on 18 Jan 1893 in Waterloo
David Brown Wilson (27) to Bessie McEwan on 27 Dec 1893 in Wellington
in case you don't have them. If you would like copies of the images for these marriages and the one for Elizabeth marrying Henry Strangeway and/or Jane marrying James Oliver, please let me know.

Are you descended from Alexander Wilson and Agnes Brown or from Robert Wilson and Jane Elliott? Just curious as this thread started out about connecting Robert who married Jane to a father and then switched to Alexander.

Jacquie

[Jacquie in Canada]

I've sent Shauna census information regarding most of the known children of Alexander and Agnes (Elizabeth, Helen, Margaret, David and Alice) whether she wanted it or not.    I couldn't find George and Agnes McGill on the census if anyone else wants to take a crack at them.

I've also found who I believe to be Alexander's son Robert on the 1891 and 1901 census but not on the 1911 census and I haven't forwarded that information to Shauna yet. Here is a link to the 1881 census for Robert L. Wilson:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008196325.jpg

It appears Robert married Susannah Leatherdale and she is Annie on the 1881 census but is also listed as Susannah on other census. I found Susannah's maiden surname on the birth registration for their daughter Bessie.

Jacquie

[shaunadavid]

AMAZING! ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!! Thank to all that have given the links to expanding the family. Yes, I started out trying to find a Robert who married Jane Elliot, but only to try to find more info on that elusive ancestor Robert Wilson, whose middle name might be Lundie/Lundy.

Since my line is Alex and Agnes and some research suggests that there is a brother Robert (as well as James and David and maybe more), I was trying to find more on Robert Sr, but searching through the siblings of Robert Sr. But alas, that was a very silly move. I thank you for your patience. 

I will have to try to find more out by trying to get the will.

But again, HOLY SMOKES the help that came out here was incredible!! No small feat. I truly appreciate your patience and help!!!!!! TY, TY, TY

[polarbear]

Regarding post #2.......I posted some info about Robert Wilson and Jane Elliot on a related thread and thought perhaps the two threads should be linked.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,346792.0.html

Regards,
Polarbear