Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather *COMPLETED*

[williamscdr]

Could be something could be nothing, but the age and date of arrival tally with DOBish, might explain where he had been:

Gustav Heise aged 50 / Locksmith

Birth: Germany

Depature port: Corral Chile

ports of voyage
Corral, Valparaiso, Callao, Puerto Chicama, Guayaquil, Buenaventura, Crist=Bal and Curacao

Arrived Liverpool 11 June 1936

Name of Ship Boskoop

Shipping Line Royal Netherlands Steamship Company Ltd

[williamscdr]

Now if  Gustav's father was Julius (connecting with the Berlin Birth) then this is interesting:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nychauta/CEMETERY/ForestHill/FHC31.html


Fortest Hill Cemetry, Chautauqua County, New York State

Name Birth
(Residence) Death
(Residence) Father
Mother Spouse Secn/Lot
Interment Notes

Heise, Herman Julius 8/06/1863 (Berlin, Germany)
7/24/1937 (Dunkirk, NY)  Geo Heise
   AA/185
7/26/1937 

So maybe Gustav emigrated to Bitain with his parents, who then moved to the US and Gustav remained and married. this is speculation and needs supporting evidence.

David

 

[skyblueFF]

Could be something could be nothing, but the age and date of arrival tally with DOBish, might explain where he had been:

Gustav Heise aged 50 / Locksmith

Birth: Germany

Depature port: Corral Chile

ports of voyage
Corral, Valparaiso, Callao, Puerto Chicama, Guayaquil, Buenaventura, Crist=Bal and Curacao

Arrived Liverpool 11 June 1936

Name of Ship Boskoop

Shipping Line Royal Netherlands Steamship Company Ltd

That's not him because he was born in 1874 according to the IGI record.On his marriage certificate and the childrens birth certificates he is a hairdresser.

[skyblueFF]

Thanks everyone
Its all got very interesting and slightly confusing.
I never expected to be able to find the German record of his birth and his mother Bertha's maiden name. But still no record of brother Ernest or where any of them died. The Forest Hill cemetery is not right because the second names are wrong.
Some of the links are to my earlier posting at another place.
Great stuff
Michael

[JustinL]

Michael,

I really think your next step has to be to order the file on Sarah Jane Heise from the National Archives.

Justin

[williamscdr]

Could be something could be nothing, but the age and date of arrival tally with DOBish, might explain where he had been:

Gustav Heise aged 50 / Locksmith

Birth: Germany

Depature port: Corral Chile

ports of voyage
Corral, Valparaiso, Callao, Puerto Chicama, Guayaquil, Buenaventura, Crist=Bal and Curacao

Arrived Liverpool 11 June 1936

Name of Ship Boskoop

Shipping Line Royal Netherlands Steamship Company Ltd

That's not him because he was born in 1874 according to the IGI record.On his marriage certificate and the childrens birth certificates he is a hairdresser.

I know that it doesn't seem to fit exactly, but don't dismiss it out right; let the evidence exist and see what else builds.

I quite like the idea of a translator misinterpretting hairdresser (ie Gustav's occupation) for locksmith - but then I like crosswords.
 
David

[williamscdr]

Michael,

I really think your next step has to be to order the file on Sarah Jane Heise from the National Archives.

Justin

I agree, see what seeds come out of it.

David

[skyblueFF]

Hi David and Justin
I will order that file I don't know what details will be in it but it may be that she re applied for British Citizenship after Gustav died which would tidy things up a bit. I also want to persue Ernest and Ellen nee Henbrey and their off spring Max Ella Millicent and Joan.
Michael

[williamscdr]

My gut feeling is that WWI and anti German feeling almost certainly accounts ofr Gustav's 'disappearance' be that via internment, deportation, emigration or change of nationality.  Each will have a paper trail some stronger than others. 

It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that he went back to Germany and fought for them and perhaps didn't survive the conflict, or even fought for the Allies?

Just thoughts - which you have probably already had yourself

David

Post Script:  Have just re-read your orginal post and note the birth of an off-spring in 1921 which de-bunks the theory of death in WWI; hoever, there is a record of a death of a Gustav Heise in WWI at:

http://www.findmypast.com/MilitarySearchCountServlet

Which I am unable to access not having a subsricption - any kind sol who would do this ......?

No mention on:

http://www.cwgc.org/