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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 08:49 GMT (UK) »

Post Script:  Have just re-read your orginal post and note the birth of an off-spring in 1921 which de-bunks the theory of death in WWI; hoever, there is a record of a death of a Gustav Heise in WWI at:

http://www.findmypast.com/MilitarySearchCountServlet

Which I am unable to access not having a subsricption - any kind sol who would do this ......?


The one mentioned above is Private William Gustave HEISE
 
He was in the London Regiment 10th (County of London) Battalion (Hackney).
 
born in Leytonstone, enlisted in Hackney, lived in Stoke Newington .
 
died 28 December 1915 At sea.

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 08:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

Just a suggestion.

 If Sarah died as widow of Heise under the name Paul in 1954,  and Julius the son died of syphilis 1904 , then one would presume that Gustav was the one that passed it on to his son. As this is a horrible disease he probably died in a hospital/asylum., and could have been in and out of one for years.

Possible death;

Gustav PAUL aged 42, Edmonton 3a 371

OOPS in 1904
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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 14:34 GMT (UK) »
Dec Quarter 1900 – Kensington 1a 362 Lists these marriages:
Hanley Esther
Heise  Ernst
Heise Karl Willy E
Henbrey Ella Frances
Leyland William Robert

Who is Karl Willy?  :-\

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Looks like his real name was Karl Willy E but he went by the name of Ernst.
Hence both names being entered in the indexes.

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 17:38 GMT (UK) »
Michael,

Regarding the re-admission to British nationality, it could mean that she and Gustav lived outside the UK for a period of seven years after he had become a British subject.

Normally, this should not have affected her nationality. However, I wonder if she became a German national to evade internment in Germany during WWI?

The husband of my ggf's sister was stripped of his British nationality for the above reason in 1919 I recall.

Justin

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 17:43 GMT (UK) »
If she married a German national before WWI then I believe she would have had to take on her husband's citizenship and would have had to reapply for British citizenship (either through her husband if he was applying for citizenship or on her own later on).
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 17 December 08 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Looks like his real name was Karl Willy E but he went by the name of Ernst.
Hence both names being entered in the indexes.

Carol
Thanks Carol
When I applied for marriage certificates for Ernst And Karl Willy as I was intrigued I thought perhaps K.W was another brother and they were having a double wedding but they kindly rung me from GRO to say he was the same person but I hand't thought of looking fro K.W in the IGI so will do.
Thanks
Michael
HEISE ,Germany, London and Birkenhead.
HARTWELL. London. Arundel.
CAPSTICK, Westmorland and Liverpool
BUTLER Liverpool
CHARTERS,  Walton Liverpool
GORE,Sefton, Liverpool .
CRUICE Roscommon and Liverpool.
ROBINSON, Westmorland.
ATKINSON,Westmorland.
DACRE, Westmorland.
FORSHAW,Sefton,Liverpool

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 18 December 08 08:17 GMT (UK) »
I wonder:

Medal card of Heise, Ernest C
Royal West Surrey Regiment
Reg No S/21643
Acting Corporal
1914-1920
Cat Ref WO 372/9

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 18 December 08 08:20 GMT (UK) »
Michael,

I really think your next step has to be to order the file on Sarah Jane Heise from the National Archives.

Justin



I agree, see what seeds come out of it.

David

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATLN=6&CATID=5121732

Nationality and Naturalisation: Heise, Sarah Jane (re-admission), from Germany. Resident in Birkenhead. Certificate AZ3255 issued 27 July 1933.


Closed Or Retained Document, Open Description, Closed For 100 years
This document was closed under the Public Records Act or is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. It is possible to request a review of the information it contains under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and this will trigger a review.


You really must get them to review this file and then post the findings ..... how exciting

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