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Re: alfred groves and elizabeth evans jones
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 21 November 09 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Is ALFRED GROVES the son of JOHN and MARY ANN GROVES by any chance? What was his mother's maiden name? I'm hoping he's the chap who features on my (distant) tree!
Looking forward to your reply.
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Re: Alfred GROVES and Elizabeth Evans JONES
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 21 November 09 22:03 GMT (UK) »
....alfred groves b 1863 carlton vic married elizabeth evans jones b 1871 romsey victoria..

Birth

GROVES Alfred
Father John  Mother Mary Ann FAIRBRASS
At Carlton  1863  Reg#15619

There are seven births to this couple registered in Victoria, including one at sea. Alfred is the fifth child.

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Re: Alfred GROVES and Elizabeth Evans JONES
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 22 November 09 16:46 GMT (UK) »
Hello!

Great! This is the right family! I'm connected as MARY ANN FAIRBRASS was my great, great grandfather's (Thomas Loveday Fairbrass) sister.

I knew she married John Groves in 1846 and emigrated sometime before 1854. They settled , I believe, in Brunswick, Australia.

I have the following children:
Frederick

I would, however, love to know more.
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Re: Alfred GROVES and Elizabeth Evans JONES
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 22 November 09 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Am having no luck with this today..let me complete the previous message:

Hello!

Great! This is the right family! I'm connected as MARY ANN FAIRBRASS was my great, great grandfather's (Thomas Loveday Fairbrass) sister.

I knew she married John Groves in 1846 and emigrated sometime before 1854. They settled , I believe, in Brunswick, Australia.

I have the following children listed:
Frederick                born 1850 London, England
William                   born 1854 Australia
Henry                     born 1857 Australia
George                   born 1861 Australia
Alfred                     born 1863 Australia
Joseph                   born 1865 Australia
Thomas Loveday    born 1868 Australia

although I did think, but as yet unproved, that at least one child named John was born before they emigrated.

That is the sum total of my knowledge of the family unit, I'm afraid!

I look forward to hearing from you.

Fliss (UK. Are you in Australia?)



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Re: Alfred GROVES and Elizabeth Evans JONES
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 22 November 09 20:11 GMT (UK) »


Hi Fliss

http://www.fcmp.com.au/

you may like to search this cemetery which is close to Brunswick for the burials of some GROVE's.
Thomas is there and I think some others too.

Sue
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Re: Alfred GROVES and Elizabeth Evans JONES
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 22 November 09 21:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Fliss,
Hope this helps  :)

Frederick GROVES died 1874 age 24 
Birth Place: London      Reg#8312
Father – John       Mother - Mary Ann Fairbrass
William GROVES died 1904 age 49 Ncote    Reg#10064
Father- Jno Groves      Mother- Mary Ann Fairbrass
A possible for Henry
Henry  GROVES died 1929 age 72 Bwk   Reg#13346
Father – Jno        Mother - Unknown
George  GROVES – can’t spot him at the moment
A possible for Alfred
Alfred GROVES died 1927 age 63 Romsey   Reg#7544
Father – Jno        Mother - Unknown
Joseph Edwin GROVES died 1866 age 1
Birth Place: Carlton       Reg#11102
Father - John       Mother - Mary Ann Fairbrass
Thomas Loveday  GROVES died 1941 age 72 Melb   Reg#616
Father- Jno Groves       Mother- Mary Ann Fairbrass
John GROVES died 1923 age 71 Cheltn    Reg#9606
Father- Jno Groves       Mother- Mary Ann Fairbrass

Looks like there was a daughter too  :D
Mary Ann GROVES born 1859 Carlton    Reg#6039
Father - Jno     Mother – Mary Ann Feivbress
and a death
Mary Ann GROVES died 1941 age 82 WBwick    Reg#4923
Father – Jno Groves     Mother – Mary Ann Hairbrash

And  a death
Mary Ann GROVES died 1890 age 62 Brnswk   Reg#6005
Father – Thos Loveday Fairbrass     Mother – Unknown

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Re: Alfred GROVES and Elizabeth Evans JONES
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 22 November 09 21:50 GMT (UK) »
Births from Vic births index - slightly different to your list

GROVES William
Father John  Mother Mary Anne FAIRBRASS
At Melbourne  1854  Reg#6285

GROVES John Chalmers
Father John  Mother Mary Ann FAIRBRASS
At Sea   1855  Reg#611

GROVES Henry
Father John  Mother Mary Anne FAIRBRASS
At Melbourne   1857  Reg#4621

GROVES Mary Ann
Father John  Mother  Mary Ann FEIVBRESS
At Carlton  1959  Reg#6039

GROVES George
Father John  Mother Mary Ann FAIRBRASS
At Melbourne  1861  Reg#12334

GROVES Alfred
Father John  Mother Mary An FAIRBRASS
At Carlton  1863  Reg#15619

GROVES Joseph Edwin
Father John  Mother Mary A FAIRBRASS
At Melbourne  1865  Reg#16778

GROVES Thomas Loveday
Father John  Mother Mary Ann FAIRBRASS
At Carlton  1868  Reg#24512

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Re: Alfred GROVES and Elizabeth Evans JONES
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 22 November 09 23:12 GMT (UK) »
hi fliss.............have sent you 2 personal messages about the groves and fairbrass tree...cheers lynie

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Re: Alfred GROVES and Elizabeth Evans JONES
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 25 November 09 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the information regarding the deaths and Fawkner Memorial Park.

Much appreciated!

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