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Identification of Regiment please
« on: Wednesday 31 December 08 14:02 GMT (UK) »
Grateful please if SKS could possibly identify the Regiment from the Capbadge of the attached soldier. Thanks Kanskar
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Rodway London 19-20c
Kirk London/Brum/Coventry/London 19c
Blower Warwicks 19c
Syrett/Brewer/Cranwell London 19c
Punter Herts/London 19c
Whitrow/Hutchings/Leeworthy/Goldsworthy/May - Devon 19-20c

Stoodley Dorset/Hants/Wilts 18-20c
Cooper/Clark Broughton, Hants 18c
Moody - East Dean/Sherfield English Hants 18/19c
White  Aspull/Wigan, Lancs 19-20c
West/Angel/Johnson/Clark  S. Wilts 19-20c
Edwards  Wardour/Ansty, Wilts 19c

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Re: Identification of Regiment please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 14:11 GMT (UK) »
A good size image, just a shame it's not a little more in focus  :(

I'd plump for either the Essex Regt or the Dorsetshire Regt, which are very similar badges.

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Re: Identification of Regiment please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 14:38 GMT (UK) »
Looks like a triptych for the scroll...Ergo Essex  ;) :D

The Dorsets had a single one...

Have you the rest of the pic...??

Looks like he may be in hospital blues...
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Re: Identification of Regiment please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 14:41 GMT (UK) »
 I would say The Essex Regiment, the coulour of the metal does not match the Dorsets.


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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.


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Re: Identification of Regiment please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to all - Essex Regiment would fit in with where the family were living (Islington and thence to Edmonton (Essex border) .

Scrimnet - Unfortunately that is all of the picture. What would be the significance please of wearing Hospital Blues ?

It could be one of two great-uncles - either William Charles Rodway  (1893- after 1945) or Albert Edward Rodway (1898-1918)

Albert Edward was definitely in the Essex Regt - not sure of William's Regimental History as yet.

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Rodway London 19-20c
Kirk London/Brum/Coventry/London 19c
Blower Warwicks 19c
Syrett/Brewer/Cranwell London 19c
Punter Herts/London 19c
Whitrow/Hutchings/Leeworthy/Goldsworthy/May - Devon 19-20c

Stoodley Dorset/Hants/Wilts 18-20c
Cooper/Clark Broughton, Hants 18c
Moody - East Dean/Sherfield English Hants 18/19c
White  Aspull/Wigan, Lancs 19-20c
West/Angel/Johnson/Clark  S. Wilts 19-20c
Edwards  Wardour/Ansty, Wilts 19c

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Re: Identification of Regiment please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 15:01 GMT (UK) »
If he was in hospital blues, it means that he was injured....And if if was injured there may be a chance that there are pension records.... :D

The pic was obviously "cut and pasted" from a much larger group pic...perhaps the only pic they had...So quite possibly Albert Edward then
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Re: Identification of Regiment please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 15:04 GMT (UK) »
I would say The Essex Regiment, the coulour of the metal does not match the Dorsets.


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I wouldn't normally go by the colour of the metal...In both wars there were "economy" issues...In WW1 of solid  brass, and WW2 of bakelite... ;)
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Re: Identification of Regiment please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 15:12 GMT (UK) »
There's definitely a medal card for Albert Edward - but as far as I am aware there is not a pension record for him. He was killed in action in 1918.

I have not been able to tie down William Charles to whom he served with - I do know he married Bessie Beatrice Cottrell in 1916 in the Hungerford area and children were born in Swindon after that.  Could he have been medically discharged around 1916-1917 ?  I do not know at this stage.

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Census info-Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Rodway London 19-20c
Kirk London/Brum/Coventry/London 19c
Blower Warwicks 19c
Syrett/Brewer/Cranwell London 19c
Punter Herts/London 19c
Whitrow/Hutchings/Leeworthy/Goldsworthy/May - Devon 19-20c

Stoodley Dorset/Hants/Wilts 18-20c
Cooper/Clark Broughton, Hants 18c
Moody - East Dean/Sherfield English Hants 18/19c
White  Aspull/Wigan, Lancs 19-20c
West/Angel/Johnson/Clark  S. Wilts 19-20c
Edwards  Wardour/Ansty, Wilts 19c

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Re: Identification of Regiment please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 20:10 GMT (UK) »
Hello Kanscar,

As you probably already know, there are MICs for three William C Rodways.

Driver AHT/942, Army Service Corps looks like an old hand.

Pte 51574 Gloucester Reg. then 43301 Worcester Reg. I haven't gone into yet.

Pte 36160 Wiltshire Reg. looks interesting, given the Swindon connection.
 
Looking at casualties with similar numbers (360**, 361** and 362**), they are virtually all 1st and 2nd Battalion, plus a few in 6th Battalion and appear to be late drafts, as the earliest casualty is April 1918. Despite the late date, a lot of them are from the South West.

If this one is your great-uncle it means that he did not serve until after his marriage. Does this fit in with the births of any children?

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