lost family

[janway]

I have been trying to find my lost ancesters who I believe went to the US between 1884 and 1891.
I found an address in there niece's note book for
Aunt Jane
366 Roberson St, Fall River, MA but I don't know if or when they lived there.

the family is
John Charnley born 1851
Jane his wife, born 1857
Margaret A there daughter born 1874
Benjamin there son born 1875
they were all born in Lancashire England
they married there in 1874
the last siteing of them was the 1881 census for England, then John appeared on the death certificate of his mother in 1884 and thats it they just dissapeared.

if anyone comes across this family or can help me in any way I would be truly grateful.

Janway

[Gary Rea]

Jan, you may have already come in contact with Mavis Bassett, who is searching for the same family, but, just in case you haven't, here is a link to her most recent Genforum post about the charnley's: http://genforum.genealogy.com/charnley/messages/152.html

Hopefully, she's made some progress and you two can compare notes. Good luck.

Gary Rea

[janway]

thanks Gary

 Mavis posted that info on my behalf, she has nothing to do with my Charnley's she was just helping me look for them, but neither fo us has had any luck.

Jan

[drakes]

Jan,
  the challenge in finding them in the US will be the lack of census information for 1890, and Rhode Island is one of the states with out any US census information for 1890.

   I may be able to check Fall River city directories (1889-1891) later this week, and I will check whether RI did any state census for that time period.

  regards,
 drakes

[janway]

thank you so much I would be grateful for anything on this family.

Jan

[Chattykathy]

Jan, Name is relative uncommon, but no dead hits, I'm afraid.

Between 1884-1891m data base only show 30 Charnley's comming from England and 4 from Great Britain (of course not everybody is transcribed/recorded or they may have entered US via Canada.

Unfortunately, critical 1890 census lost.

                     *******************

Arrival Date: June 6, 1881 
"Arizona" Liverpool to US (no specific port indicated)

Henry b. 1852
Mary - Wife b. 1852
Mary (dau) b. 1875
Maretz (dau) b. 1877
Benjn infant
All born in England

              *******************8

1900 Providence, Rhode Island

Henry b. June, 1852  Immi. 1881  Profession:Carpenter @ Mill
Mary   b. Dec, 1851
Mary A. Dau b. June 1874
Benjamin son b. July 1880
All born in England; all immi. 1881

                      *********************

1900 Fall River, Bristol Co., Massachuttes

Micky       b. June 1857           immi. 1884
Elizabeth b. Aug. 1857           immi. 1883
Elizabeth (dau) b. May 1883  immi. 1883
All born in England

Micky is Fireman @ Mill
Micky & Elizabeth married 22 years
Elizabeth mother of 16 children; 5 living

Note, I double checked the immigration date indicated --  odd but Micky says 1884 while the 2 Elizabeth's says 1883.

Hope there is something helpful here.
Kathy

[samthompson]

Hello,

you may find some information using this site -
http://www.raogk.org/massachu.htm
it is a site for Volunteers that will help with different types of research.

- there is a volunteer that lists that she has books of Fall River

Bristol  Jackie Nadeau  I have 2 great books called FALL RIVER, 1865-1885 AND 1886-1900 ...lots of surnames, will gladly do lookups from these 2 volumes. 

If you do decide to use this site you MUST make ONLY ONE request for every 2 weeks - the admin monitors this to make sure no abuses the volunteers time.


here are some  possible clues but what would help is someone who access to the US Census records on Ancestry.com. I don't have a subscription to it but it is a great site. If they ended up in the States they should be able to be tracked down in 1900 federal census.

from the

North Providence, Rhode Island 1877 Tax List - Index
http://distantcousin.com/Directories/RI/NoProvidence/1877/Pages.asp?Pages=05.jpg
there is a Robert Charnley - perhaps a family member who immigrated before John and Jane?

burial in MA
http://interment.net/data/us/ma/barnstable/massnat/mass%5Fcaschar.htm
Charnley, Thomas L, b. 02/26/1913, d. 01/18/1999, US Army, SGT, Res: Marstons Mills, MA, Plot: 26 0 96, bur. 01/22/1999

this would be him in WW2
ARMY SERIAL NUMBER  31134635       
NAME  CHARNLEY#THOMAS#L#######       
RESIDENCE: STATE  13   MASSACHUSETTS 
RESIDENCE: COUNTY  017   MIDDLESEX 
PLACE OF ENLISTMENT  1306   BOSTON MASSACHUSETTS 
DATE OF ENLISTMENT DAY  17     
DATE OF ENLISTMENT MONTH  06       
DATE OF ENLISTMENT YEAR  42       
GRADE: ALPHA DESIGNATION  PVT#   Private   
GRADE: CODE  8   Private  View 
BRANCH: ALPHA DESIGNATION  BI#   Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA   
BRANCH: CODE  00   Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA   
FIELD USE AS DESIRED  #       
TERM OF ENLISTMENT  5   Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law   
LONGEVITY  ###     
SOURCE OF ARMY PERSONNEL  0   Civil Life 
NATIVITY  !7   PANAMA   
YEAR OF BIRTH  13     
RACE AND CITIZENSHIP  1   White, citizen   
EDUCATION  8   4 years of college   
CIVILIAN OCCUPATION  019   SHOP ENGINEER, RAILWAY or MECHANICAL ENGINEER 
MARITAL STATUS  6   Single, without dependents 
COMPONENT OF THE ARMY  7   Selectees (Enlisted Men)   
CARD NUMBER  #       
BOX NUMBER  0399     
FILM REEL NUMBER  3.120     

There are 21 records for Charnleys in WW2 and a lot of them are from Rhode Island / Bristol / Providence / MA area. Let me know is you want to browse through them and I will send directions.

Try this site to see who is looking for Charnley relatives

http://www.geneanet.org/

Good Luck

Sam

[janway]

thanks to all for trying to help,
sorry to say none of the people found are connected, there was no other family members in the US.
and thanks for the links for help I shall try those.

Jan

[drakes]

Hi,
  I checked the Fall River, MA City directories, 1889-91 and found

 John J. Charnley
 loc: Bourne
 boards 17 Mt Hope Ave
 Fall River

  also, did 1890 alternative search which uses mainly city directories  thru states for "John Charnley"

  Lowell, Ma

  had 1889-90 John M. Charnley - house 112 Suffolk

 Woonsocket, RI directories 1890-93 - no John Charnley some John Cornells

 Newport, Ri - Directories 1887-92 only Mrs. John D. Cornell

  Providence, RI - John Cornell or John Cromwells

  But Pawtucket RI city directories 1869-1941 had John Charnley listed from 1871-1941 - if you want particulars for this listing just let me know -

  and same with Providence and vicinity, RI ,city directories 1818-1964 -

  John Charnley from 1912 - 1923 listings - if you want particulars will send scant info though..

  probably can't rule out their living somewhere in RI - but lacking a 1890 census...it's hard...

  best,

 drakes