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Re: Help with decyphering, please
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 29 January 09 17:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monica,
Bit of a drama going on here so have to leave this for now.  But I am very appreciative of your help,
Cheers,
Abiam

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Re: Help with decyphering, please
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 29 January 09 19:41 GMT (UK) »
This can all wait Abiam  ;D Deal with your drama first!

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Re: Help with decyphering, please
« Reply #20 on: Friday 30 January 09 01:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Have now had time to read through everything and I think there is a problem!  On Joseph Ferguson's marriage cert his father is John and he is a storeman and his wife Christina Ferguson's maiden name is Morrison! 

I know John and James often get interchanged but I hadn't spotted the Morrison bit.  John/James father is John married to Catherine, maiden name, Valentine. 

Looking on the web I found a very large tree and think that maybe John and Catherine are not of this family.  My people appear to be much lower down the social scale. 

I have the 1901 census and it does look like Hanlus!  I will post it tomorrow,
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Re: Help with decyphering, please
« Reply #21 on: Friday 30 January 09 06:35 GMT (UK) »
This is from the 1901.  Can anyone see what  the birthplace is?


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Re: Help with decyphering, please
« Reply #22 on: Friday 30 January 09 08:29 GMT (UK) »
Not sure of the first one
Strichen - about 10k east of New Pitsligo
Brackleymore - probably Bracklamore same as before
New Aberdour - about 10k north of New Pitsligo near the coast

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Re: Help with decyphering, please
« Reply #23 on: Friday 30 January 09 08:43 GMT (UK) »
Can't see anything around that area that looks like Hanlus. Might need an older OS map of the area.

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Re: Help with decyphering, please
« Reply #24 on: Friday 30 January 09 10:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Abiam

The 1913 marriage for Joseph sort of throws everything in the air! However, I cannot see see a marriage, surprisingly as they are quite common names, for a John or James Ferguson and a Christina Mor*ison between 1875 - 1895 anywhere in Scotland on SP. I would also say that the names James and John are quite different and not normally interchangeable.

If you are certain of the Morrison middle name for Joseph and that his origins were from Aberdeenshire before a move to Ayrshire, then that 1893 birth cert would look to be the correct one. This then makes the information we have found already for his parents James F and Christina Shea also correct. Their births and family, having confirmed their parents from their marriage certificate in 1893, you already have. This family do look to have moved from Aberdeenshire to Ayrshire just before the 1901 census. A change of occupation for James father from farm servant to police constable in not unusual necessarily. Many police constables would have joined a force from agricultural origins. By 1913 when Joseph married, James looks to have left the Police force and shows as store keeper. Not sure when James may have changed occupations, maybe in Aberdeenshire, maybe the last birth in Aberdeenshire would be good to check. Or it may have come about as part of the family's move to Ayrshire?

There is a death in 1961 in Kilmarnock Ayrshire for a Christina Shee/Ferguson, age 88.

It's a pity when BMDs have conflicting information. Maybe checking the details on Joseph's death cert. might be the next step?

Looking at father James' BC in 1874 I think gives a possible confirmation of birth place that shows on the 1901 census, although still not one that I reconise - hopefully someone else can help on this:
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Re: Help with decyphering, please
« Reply #25 on: Friday 30 January 09 12:03 GMT (UK) »
Looking at this site www.urie.demon.co.uk/genuki/ABD/Methlick/gazeteer.html - I wonder if it is Haddo?

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Re: Help with decyphering, please
« Reply #26 on: Friday 30 January 09 12:20 GMT (UK) »
I am suddenly not so sure of anything!

John McLellan Fergusuon was registered 28 May 1915 at Kirkoswald
Parents: Joseph Morrison Ferguson (ploughman) and Evelyn McLellan .  This I now appreciate is in Ayrshire.

Joseph and Evelyn were married 18 July 1913 at Burnton Dalrymple again Ayrshire.
Joseph's parents: John Ferguson (storeman) and Christina Morrison
Evelyn's parents: John Mclellan(d) and Mary Stewart

I cannot find a marriage for Joseph's parents.
I think I have led you on a wild goose chase!  And I apologise.  My thinking James and John were interchangable and not spotting the Morrison.  Also not being very sure of Scottish geography!

If we cannot find John and Mary's marriage we are a bit stuck.

I cannot find the correct death of Joseph as he died in WW1 and there are 3 candidates!  (One from Pitsligo)

Joseph Morrison Ferguson's birth cert at Pitsligo has James as father and Christina Shea.

Any suggestions anybody?
Abiam