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Re: Looking for 1802 Census of Protestants
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 December 09 17:38 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Looking for 1802 Census of Protestants
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 29 December 09 17:17 GMT (UK) »
MacGillean

I'd be grateful if you would look at the early census of Protestants - Tullamore - for the surnames BRADLEY, MACDONALD and DIXON as the earliest I have the family is mention of a marriage licence 1835 in Diocese of Meath (John A BRADLEY to Eliza MACDONALD) who seem to have spent their lives since that time in Tullamore.

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Re: Looking for 1802 Census of Protestants
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 29 December 09 17:30 GMT (UK) »
Parish of TULLAMORE-KILBRIDE; Ponsonsby Gouldsbury, vicar, Sept. 1802

DIXON  George, Dorothy, William 20
M'DONALD  John, Anne, Jane, John infant, Henry 20

The last page of this parish was cut off by the copy machine but I'm sure I'll be back at the NY public library some time to get the rest, I hope this may help you out.

Have you researched the tithe applotment books for Kilbride-Tullamore in 1826?  The film is available through the Latter Day Saints Family History Centers.  Also the Offaly Historical and Archaeological Society holds the parish registers for Tullamore from 1805 onwards.  If your family was definitely in Tullamore, it would be a gold mine of information for you.
If you have them in Griffiths (1854) I would suggest going through the cancelled land books (1856-70) which will show their land changing hands and will give you an idea of what they held between Griffith's and the start of Civil Registration in 1864.

My family was in Clara (no parish registers survive) and their parish on this 1802 census does not survive, so the land records are all I have to really go on.

Good luck in your search!
MacLean; Kildare, Offaly, Dublin, Meath, Westmeath

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Re: Looking for 1802 Census of Protestants
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 29 December 09 20:36 GMT (UK) »
Well, thank you for all that MacGillean

I do have a copy of my gt.grandfather's (John Alexander BRADLEY) Will of 1894 and thanks to the Historical Society got quite a bit of information 15 years or so ago, but nothing earlier than 1834/5.  The sudden sight of earlier dates being mentioned has fired me with renewed interest.  So, I'll follow up your advice.

The Will mentions land in Cloncolley and Puttaghan, as well as several properties in Tullamore, but also a house (No.2 Stephens Green) in Dublin which made me think that the BRADLEYs came from Dublin and the MACDONALDs / DIXONs were perhaps associated with Tullamore district.

So, thanks for the MACDONALD info.  That looks very interesting.  The firstborn son of the family was named John Dixon BRADLEY, so I was assuming that the 'Dixon' is associated with a family of DIXON surname.  The surname MACDONALD from the matriarch, Eliza Louisa, survives to my generation as an incorporated forename.

- Just been reading through the 'History of Tullamore' and found several references to the gt.grandfather, so that's pleased me this evening.

Thanks again for inspiring me to take up the search again after all this time.
Chilis





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Re: Looking for 1802 Census of Protestants
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 30 December 09 01:53 GMT (UK) »
You're welcome Chilis, my family were protestants in the area at the same time and a lot of the men's middle names are either their mother's maiden names or their father's mother's maiden names.  Since Elizabeth is a McDonald, maybe John A's mother was a Dixon which would put her birth in the "circa 1800" timeframe, but it might make more sense her mother was a Dixon if the Bradleys weren't in Tullamore. 
I have something else that might interest you, the 1901 census of Tullamore.  I'm not sure if you've seen it already, quite a few McDonald families and McDonnell which I can list if you like...

Other townlands of Kilbride are also listed, you may know who some of these people are if you have detailed records of the family around the time of John Bradley's death.
I believe the 1911 Census is searchable online at the National Library of Ireland website

BALLARD
McDONALD  Michael and Mary, Patrick, Edward, Mary, James, Joseph, Peter, Kathleen, Vincent (ex army)

BALLYCOWAN
McDONALD  Catherine, Patrick, Terence, Mary

KILLEIGH
McDONALD  James and Elizabeth (sub-postmaster)

LYNALLY GLEBE
McDONALD  James and Sarah, Anne, Edward, William Murphy

NEWTOWN
McDONALD  James and Mary, William, Bridget

PUTTAGHAN
DIXON  Mary, Michael, Patrick, Ellen

And here is the 1854 Griffith's Valuation if you don't have it...

Dixon   John    Erry Mary Borough   Kilbride   Offaly
Dixon   James   Town of Clara           Kilbride   Offaly

No "MacDonald" but any of these could easily be a mis-spelling as you can see there is a Terence "McDonnell" in Ballycowan here just like the Terence "McDonald" listed above in Ballycowan.

Mc Donnell        Bernard   Lower Barrack Street,Tullamore                 
Mc Donnell        Bridget     Tullamore                                   
Mc Donnell        Charles     Tullamore Charles Street 
Mc Donnell        James                Clonminch
Mc Donnell        Mary Anne            High Street,Tullamore                       
Mc Donnell        Mrs. Anne            Tullamore Church Street                     
Mc Donnell        Patrick              Ballycowan 
Mc Donnell        Patrick              Tullamore Charles Street                     
Mc Donnell        Roger                Srah
Mc Donnell        Rose                 Bridge Lane,Tullamore 
Mc Donnell        Terence              Ballycowan 
Mc Donnell        William              River Street,Town of Clara                   

Bradley           Andrew            Chapel Street,Tullamore                     
Bradley           John                 Town of Tullamore (Part of)
Bradly            John                  Tullamore

Just curious, who published your History of Tullamore book?  It seems like it would be an interesting read.  I have "Exploring Family Origins in Tullamore Town" which has this listed 1901 census and a few commercial directories.
It's good to start the search again fresh after a long break, I've "thrown in the towel" more than a few times.  As time goes on, more and more information becomes available through the internet.
MacLean; Kildare, Offaly, Dublin, Meath, Westmeath

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Re: Looking for 1802 Census of Protestants
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 30 December 09 09:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for all that MacGillean

I am mindful that I have unwittingly created a different thread from the Subject title, so will make this my last post on here -

It is back to the drawing board for me with all your suggestions to follow up, particularly as more has come on line each year. 

By the way, I found Michael Byrne's excellent 'History of Tullamore' on www.offalyhistory.com.  I shall probably get this edition. 

Again, thanks for your responses
Chilis