Hello folks can any one offer any other direction to take on Fanny (Frances ) Mc Cann please. She was my Dad's mum and although I have made strides with the Mc Canns she is still as puzzling as ever . She married Thomas Mc Cann in 1896 First off I found she had a baby daughter named Mary who passed away after 3 days and as far as I know my dad knew nothing of this birth, later on they had another daughter also named Mary a year before my dad's birth, I have found her death at the convent at Mountjoy in 1916 and this part of the story I knew. She was taken there after Fanny herself died at a young age leaving her three children, James, Mary and Patrick.
The Terence that Dathai suggested is indeed my Dad the details match on his parents but he is shown as Terence Barber Mc Cann , who knows why and he always said his birthday was the 18th of June 1904, I realise that he obviously applied for a copy of his baptism certificate from the pro cathedral as he could never get a birth certificate as identity proof because of the name, but why his name change? Unless it's mistake of the registrar. It also crossed my mind he could have been a twin, but can't see any record.
Now Fanny herself has created the biggest mystery , when she married Thomas she named her father as James Carolan and a line runs through his occupation which has made me wonder did this mean deceased. On checking all the James Carolans the most likely one is James who lived at Stoney Butter and Blackhall place , leaving his large family he passed away at the age of 55 yrs and was a blacksmith, but no where on any record is Fanny shown as a daughter , the only thing making me lean towards him which I know is wrong is the fact his daughter Ann married a William Lawlor and this is the name of the female sponsor on my dad's baptism certificate, and Ann's marriage certificate shows the same line running through her fathers occupation, does this really mean deceased ? With Fanny Carolan as a witness at their wedding in 1891 and for Ann's children the sponsors includes Frances or Fanny Carolan all before the marriage date for Fanny,
The names Lawlor and Byrne seem attached to the Carolans and Mc Canns, at the time of Fanny losing their first daughter Mary They were living at Hogans Avenue very close to more of the Lawlor family
All of this info is a lot to digest but intriguing as most history is , I have used so many combinations of the names to tie into James Caloran but still the only clue is on her marriage certificate of April 1896. I have even asked myself could she be an illegitimate child of his that was drawn into the family, strange thought I know to think of your gran but weirder things have happened in family's . I also know this is a lot to ask anyone to digest but if I have missed anything that anyone can see I would be pleased to hear from you. I have to say that the records on the Irish genealogy site is great asset to have to hand so well done to them. Cheers L.B
