1871?

[fred111]

Oh, I wasn't suggesting that ANYONE on Rootchat didn't know where the Scotish border was, I assue you.
There seem to be Summerville and Sumerbell shoemakers popping up all over the North, including Morpeth and district!
1841 - there's a James Summerbell (37) who's a shoe maker living in High Bridge Newcastle with wife Mary & family.
Let's hope Michael can come up trumps.
Liz

[Michael Dixon]

Well there is no reason why I shouldn't be able to find the burials in T&W Archives - but the important thing is that the records include some hard identifiers like  " husband of ?? " or " Wheelwright" or " cordwainer" etc ?

Michael

[fred111]

Thanks for the search, Michael

[Michael Dixon]

I failed to find any James Summerville burial in Newcastle.

Not quite true because I found the burial of a one year old James.

I learned today that the burial records of the four "ancient" parishes of Newcastle stop after about early 1850s.

This seems to be because the small burial grounds attached to the parish churches in the city,  were full.  Then burials continued in cemeteries distant from the parish churches

Taking All Saints Parish as an example, the church burial register records deaths/burials up to 1853. Then  the " All Saints, Jesmond" cemetery started it's burial from about 1857.

Now my excuse, most  of the church burial records have an index in surname alpha order, making people easy to find.  The cemetery burial and grave purchase records are just in date order not surname order.

I rubbed shoulders with a "burial expert" who told me that parish connections were not solid for burials in the cemeteries and folk from any parish could more or less be buried in any cemetery. In fact of the four parish churches, All Saints is more distant from Jesmond(All Saints) cemetery.

I had time to look in records for cemeteries at Jesmond, (All Saints),  Jesmond (St Andrews)  and Westgate/Elswick ( St John's).

I found a Jane (1858) and Edwin (1861) in Jesmond St Andrews and a William in Westgate/Elswick, but no adult James.


Need to cover records of cemeteries at Ballast Hills ,  Jesmond (Newcastle General) and Westgate Hill , hoping to locate one or both of the James Summervilles. But I am off to Scotland for week and half, so hunt will have to wait.

Although seeing that Tyne & Wear Archives building is close to Central Railway Station, maybe I can do a bit more while awaiting my train ! Only kidding.

Michael Dixon

[JenB]

Michael, I must hand you a bouquet!

You never fail to come up with fascinating and relevant facts.

Thank you for all the valuable nuggets of information you give with patience and good humour.

I'll stop before I make you blush too much 

Jennifer

[fred111]

:)Absolutely agree, Jen.
Michael, have you thought of going into print  Your fund of knowledge and of sources and interesting sites is amazing. You are kind enough to share it with us on Rootschat, I'm sure that a book from you would be a wonderful addition to any family researchers.
Although I moved away from the NE many years ago, my heart is still there, and when I'm researching I think you have added to every query I've ever done about the area, and helped me so much along the way.
Many many thanks to ALL who have helped me.
Liz
PS Have a good time in Scotland, Michael.

[Preshous]

Hi All
I Thought you might like to see this map of the cemeteries in Newcastle. Just to add I have photographed all the available gravestones in Gosforth North, around 5% transcribed. Hope to get all of newcastle cemeteries photographed within the next 2 years, I will need to get my finger out LOL .

[JenB]

Just to add I have photographed all the available gravestones in Gosforth North, around 5% transcribed. Hope to get all of newcastle cemeteries photographed within the next 2 years,

That really is a labour of love 

[Preshous]

Hi Jen
Just hope to get them all done before my Gravestone is one of them 

Gary