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Offline Suzy W

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Re: Is it Holden or Halden? (Completed)
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 28 July 11 07:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Sarah.

Yes indeed there are two Halden families in the Stafford area at this time.  There is still some confusion on how they all connect.  Sometimes I have came across the name miss spelt as Holden.

We have two William Halden's born about the same time about 1775, one being my William son of William Halden (shoemaker) and Mary Sargent and the other William who married a Grezel Spillbury, they could be cousins.

William and Mary had ten children.  Some became shoe makers and others became printers/book dealers.

If you need anymore details please P.M me

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Re: Is it Holden or Halden? (Completed)
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 28 July 11 14:11 BST (UK) »
This has sparked me off looking.

There is a public family tree on ancestry Johnson Mayer which links these two chains up and goes even further back.  ;D
Calow Clowne, Eaton, Bott, Derbyshire, Airey, Cleasby, Cannon, Willis, North Yorkshire, Kelk, Ogley, Sharp, Gillot, Jillott, Ibberson, Littlewood, Watson, Eyre, Townend, Booth, Ambler, Hanson, Kenyon, Sellars/Sellers, Yorkshire, Skidmore, Parker, Nottinghamshire, Walker, Earl, Howard Cambridgeshire, Halden Milwich Staffordshire and Brent Pelham Hertfordshire,

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Re: Is it Holden or Halden? (Completed)
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 28 July 11 23:58 BST (UK) »
I think one of our major problems is linking which Halden family goes where?
So many with the same name, either born at the same time or married at the same time. 
This family has not made it easy. ::)
I could not view the full family tree on Ancestry as I am not a full member, but my family details are there without added records, I keep those private in my own collection.

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LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

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Re: Is it Holden or Halden? (Completed)
« Reply #21 on: Friday 20 March 20 20:38 GMT (UK) »
The Haldens moved to Brent Pelham and then back to Milwich due to Death duties incurred in Brent Pelham. The Haldens originated in Milwich about 1500
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Re: Is it Holden or Halden? (Completed)
« Reply #22 on: Friday 20 March 20 20:51 GMT (UK) »
There seems to be two different branches of the Halden families.
Figured out mine are from Milwich.  My William married Mary Sargent in 1773 Milwich. There seems to be another William, this is not mine, but could be related somehow along the lines.
Dating back to 1600's the name was actually Hardhorne in Milwich.

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Re: Is it Holden or Halden? (Completed)
« Reply #23 on: Friday 20 March 20 21:40 GMT (UK) »
Yes I agree it got changed from Hardhorne.

Your William is my 1st cousin 6 x removed making us about 7th cousins, although we could be related through the Sargents too.
Calow Clowne, Eaton, Bott, Derbyshire, Airey, Cleasby, Cannon, Willis, North Yorkshire, Kelk, Ogley, Sharp, Gillot, Jillott, Ibberson, Littlewood, Watson, Eyre, Townend, Booth, Ambler, Hanson, Kenyon, Sellars/Sellers, Yorkshire, Skidmore, Parker, Nottinghamshire, Walker, Earl, Howard Cambridgeshire, Halden Milwich Staffordshire and Brent Pelham Hertfordshire,

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Re: Is it Holden or Halden? (Completed)
« Reply #24 on: Friday 20 March 20 22:58 GMT (UK) »
Have you done a DNA test at all Jopeg? 

My gg grandmother was Ann Halden, her father James born 1810, his father William born 1776 who was the son of William and Mary as stated.

Yes there had been quite a bit of confusion regarding the two Halden families of Milwich.  I am certain I am on the right line now.  Having two Williams born within the same time period, did throw some. This is where DNA may come in helpful.

William born 1744. It is possible William had a cousin by the name of Walter and a sister by the name of Elizabeth.
Elizabeth married a Charles Bromley in 1777 and witness was a William Sargent, he could be related to Mary Sargent, William's wife.

I haven't come across the online tree.  Any links?

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TEW family of Leire/Leicester and New Zealand
MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
PENTECOST of Surrey and New Zealand
POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
WATKINS of London and New Zealand
WHITAKER of Guiseley Yorkshire and New Zealand
LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

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