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Re: SHEEHAN (Seaham) JOHNSTON (Whitehaven)
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 21 February 09 01:38 GMT (UK) »


Census 1881 (5191-19-31)
Ireland-born couple John/Sarah Sheehan, in Cleator, with five Cleator-born children including 7 yr old John.

Census 1891 ( 4319-51-41)
Same family, now in Egremont with 18 yr old John an IRON MINER

A John Sheehan death Sept/1895 Whitehaven, aged 56 ( he was 52 on C1891)
 A Sarah Sheehan death Mar/1896 Whitehaven, aged 50 (she was 48 on C1891)

Then next the info from Barbara..
Census 1901 (4795-171-26) Wallsend ( within Tynemouth Reg District)
Married 28 yr old John Sheehan. born Cleator Moor, a coal hewer.



More corroboration required ! I would expect this John , if he is the "right" John, to name a daughter Sarah.. already named a son John !

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Re: SHEEHAN (Seaham) JOHNSTON (Whitehaven)
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 21 February 09 01:53 GMT (UK) »
It's looking good, Michael, all we need now is Eleanor's birth cert to find the missing link  :)
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Re: SHEEHAN (Seaham) JOHNSTON (Whitehaven)
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 21 February 09 02:00 GMT (UK) »

And carrying on along Barbara's scenario... the marriage of a Daniel Sheehan , to an Elizabeth A Hall, was reg. in Whitehaven reg dist in Mar/1934.

So maybe the family did not stay long in Northumberland.

( I never liked the walking exploits of Elz's grandfather walking from Whitehaven to Seaham (  maybe once for a new love- but the hike there and back would have been an incentive to get a local girl ! )

Never mind the advent of 1911 census... I am desparate for the 1921  Blimey.

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Lowell, Ma, USA
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Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
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Re: SHEEHAN (Seaham) JOHNSTON (Whitehaven)
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 21 February 09 02:06 GMT (UK) »
Never mind the advent of 1911 census... I am desparate for the 1921  Blimey.

Some folk are never satisfied  :D  :D
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Re: SHEEHAN (Seaham) JOHNSTON (Whitehaven)
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 21 February 09 09:17 GMT (UK) »
LOL thanks folks, I do tend to get carried away. Have orderd Eleanor's birth certificate and start the hunt from there. Not only did Grandad walk from Whitehaven to Egremont everyday, but he used to row Eleanor to the Isle of man for day trips! He was still riding his bike around Whitehaven aged 80  :o

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Re: SHEEHAN (Seaham) JOHNSTON (Whitehaven)
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 21 February 09 09:30 GMT (UK) »
I hope you'll check first for her father's name and occupation - anyway please do come back and post the details, it would be great if all this speculation ties in, but if it doesn't, we can start again!

Barbara  :)
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Re: SHEEHAN (Seaham) JOHNSTON (Whitehaven)
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 21 February 09 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Oh do you need fathers occupation to apply for the actual certificate? I wasnt asked. Or do you mean that will be revealed when I get it?

(((Barbara, I was on Roseberry Topping recently, very windy, my dog slipped his lead and ran wild around the very top. Couldn't hear me shouting. Nightmare! Took a man with a mars bar to get him under control...I was beside myself. The same day, a man was blown off and killed.)))

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Re: SHEEHAN (Seaham) JOHNSTON (Whitehaven)
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 21 February 09 09:48 GMT (UK) »
It may be worth asking Tynemouth register office to ask about the birth for the Ellen Sheehan 1903 I gave earlier, to see if her father was John.    

Oh do you need fathers occupation to apply for the actual certificate? I wasnt asked. Or do you mean that will be revealed when I get it?

You don't need it, but I just suggested that you can check with them first for his name and occupation before buying the certificate to make sure it's the right one

(That pic was taken by my brother and made into a jigsaw for me - wish my missing family pieces fell into place as quickly!)

Barbara  :)
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Re: SHEEHAN (Seaham) JOHNSTON (Whitehaven)
« Reply #44 on: Monday 30 March 09 17:18 BST (UK) »
Just got Ellen Sheehan's birth certificate!!! Not sure if this is my one as a few things out of sync.

Her birth date is 22/11/1902 30 Davis Street Wallsend.

Father John Sheehan, Coal Miner.
Mother Eliza Sheehan formerly Carvel.
Registration district Tynemouth.

I am puzzled because this date would make her 31 on her marriage cert in April 1933 which states 30.

Also, I cannot find any trace of 'Eleanor' Sheehan as marriage cert. and this is the only Ellen in the area.

I can't find any trace of Eliza Carvel... spelling mistake for Carver perhaps?

Any thoughts please. I have joined Ancestry.co.uk but am stuck on this one.

Thanks Elz x