Henry PENNY & Jessie ROWLAND family

[LockeLad]

I now have confirmation that Henry Penny died 11 Dec 1905 at Yeovil hospital aged 51 years leaving Jessie Penny (of 30 South Street, Yeovil) widowed.  The youngest four children would have been about 6, 7, 10 and 12 years old.  As a farm labourer, and probably in a tied cottage, the situation would have been dire. Although at least two of the family later lived in Canada there is no evidence (yet) of any of them being shipped out there 'for a better life'. On the other hand the youngest members and their mother cannot readily be found in the UK 1911 census. Adoption?

[LockeLad]

Please can someone check on Ancestry for the military service, death or discharge wounded for a Reginald Penny and a Reginald Albert Penny, birth dates 1898, of Yeovil, Somerset. 

Also Albert Rumsey Penny or Albert Ramsden Penny, birth dates 1886, of Yeovil, Somerset? It appears that he returned to the UK to sign up for WW2 and survived the war. Can anyone locate him re-entering the UK?

We now know that Edwin John Penny emigrated to Canada in 1908 and married Annie Maria Tuplin, 24 May 1910, in Canada. It appears that he also returned to the UK to sign up for WW2. Killed: 4 May 1915. Can anyone locate him re-entering the UK?

Thanks,

LockeLad

[LockeLad]

More research has established the identity of Mary White who is mentioned in the family correspondence of 1955. She appeared sometimes to be a sister to the Penny children but is never listed among them in census returns. Her history is as follows:

Mary Jane Rowland, born 17 March 1880 Yeovil district, subdistrict Ilchester at Bridgehampton, apparently illegitimate daughter of Jessie Rowland, born Upottery, Devon (1859-1936). No father's name is given on her birth certificate and she keeps the name Rowland until her marriage to James White. At time of Mary's marriage to James White (1873- of Knole, Somerset) in Dorchester in 1902 (Dorchester Mar 1902,  5a 579) she gave her name as Mary Jane A. Rowland.

She lived with her grandparents until of age rather than live with her mother who marries a year or so after Mary's birth. Her mother, Jessie Rowland, marries Henry Penny (1853-1905) in abt July 1881 (Sept 1881, Yeovil 5c 637).

The 1911 census shows Mary living in Weymouth with her husband and two children: Fred White born 1906 in Avon, Hants. and Ivy May White born 1903 in Rampisham, Dorset. Mary was still living in 1955 (family knowledge).

So what is Mary's connection with the Penny family siblings described in this lookup request? She is actually a half-sister to them. Two pieces of evidence identify her as being regarded as 'sister' to the Penny siblings. The newspaper obituary notice of Lucy Ann Penny (1882-1955) describes Mary as her 'sister'. Also the 1911 census for Mary and James White in Weymouth shows Ernest Penny (1892-WW1) living at that the same address and is described as 'wife's brother'.

Mary Rowland as a child/young woman;
1881 census: living with mother Jessie Rowland at the home of Jessie's parents (John & Elizabeth Rowland) in Downhead, West Camel, age 6 months?
1891 census: living with grandparents, age 11, John & Elizabeth Rowland at Bridgehampton. Jessie now married to Henry Penny, living at Church Hill, Corton Denham.
1901 census: living with grandparents, age 20, John & Elizabeth Rowland at Bridgehampton. James White, her husband shortly to be, listed as a boarder (age 27, a carter), born Long Sutton (close to Knole).

QED

[LockeLad]

I am now interested in the youngest member of the Penny family, namely Frank Penny, born 1899. A family letter written by him in 1955, of which I have a copy, reveals some interesting facts. He confirms that he got a gas attack in WW1. He then worked in industry, at one time in Cardiff. He then moved to London and notes that he has lived there for thirty years. His mother, Jessie Penny (nee Rowland) lived with him for some of that time, dying in 1936. He gives his address as 25 Allfarthing Lane, Wandsworth, London, SW18.

I was unable to find any record for Frank in the 1911 census for England and Wales although it is unlikely that he was living elsewhere then. In his letter of 1955, he mentions that he lost 'the wife' in 1942 but fails to give her name!
Any chance that someone can identify who she is? Perhaps help someone to fill a space in a family tree.

Thank you!
LockeLad

[QueenoftheWest]

Do you know when Frank Penny died? Could this be him?

Frank Penny b 11 Oct 1899 death registered Oct 1969 (Dec qtr 1969) age 70 Kensington RD

This Frank's wife was called Rose.

Then a death registration for Rose:

Rose M Penny died aged 35 Dec qtr 1941 Kensington RD

Not 1942 but last quarter of 1941, which is very close.

Queenie 

[LockeLad]

Thank you. This is a promising lead!

[Ladyhawk]

Do you know when Frank Penny died? Could this be him?

Frank Penny b 11 Oct 1899 death registered Oct 1969 (Dec qtr 1969) age 70 Kensington RD

This Frank's wife was called Rose.

Then a death registration for Rose:

Rose M Penny died aged 35 Dec qtr 1941 Kensington RD

Not 1942 but last quarter of 1941, which is very close.

For info.

London Electoral Register Year 1939

Address 25 Queensdale Road, Kensington
Frank & Rose May PENNY
also at same address
Stewart Victor ROWLEY & Rosina Elsie ROWLEY (Rosina’s maiden name COX)

[softly softly]

Can trace Frank and Rose back together on electoral regs to 1931/32, @ 6 Rockley Road Hackney

and in 1935/6 25 Queensdale Road

John

[Ladyhawk]

His mother, Jessie Penny (nee Rowland) lived with him for some of that time, dying in 1936. He gives his address as 25 Allfarthing Lane, Wandsworth, London, SW18.

London Electoral Register
Frank Penny is at that address years 1950 - 1958 there are others but none with surname Penny