Burgess-Spalding - a puzzle/condundrum

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How about this from SP:

Baptism - Wiston and Roberton - 21 Feb 1790 - John Stodart Parents - Philip Stodart and Janet Padkin

Think this is him and he is Mary's brother 

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I've checked for baptisms in the OPR (SP) for children of Philip and Janet 1780-1810 in Lanarkshire

This is what I have - all Wiston and Roberton:

20 Aug 1786- Margaret (just Philip's name)
23 Feb 1788 - James
21 Feb 1790  - John
26 Feb 1792 - Weir
30 July 1794 - William
5 Nov 1797 - Janet
22 Oct 1799 - Helen
16 DEc 1802 - Mary


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Philip Stodart married/banns Janet Padyen on 7 Sept 1785, Wiston and Roberton

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Two baptisms showing for a Janet Padkin and Padyen in Wiston and Roberton

30 Jan 1758 Janet Padkin

17 Oct 1762 Janet Padyen

Both listed as father James.No mother's name.  I assume that the first one died and your Janet is the second one.

Can't see anything for a Phil* Stod*ar* 


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Found him 

16 Jan 1758 Wiston and Roberton Philip Stodhart . Father - Philip Stodhart. No mother's name.

However, there is a Philip Stodhart (variations) there having children in the broad time period (1756- onwards)  where the mother is Janet Weir*, so it's highly likely that she was Philip's mother.


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* given that Philip and Janet Padken's third son was called Weir!

Oh dear, you've  gone now it's got interesting 

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The only marriage that I can find for a James Pad*n at around the right time is in Montrose, Angus. It seems a long way to travel to Wiston/Roberton in Lanark but it is an outside possibility so I'll give it to you just in case. Note that the marriages in the OPRs are just for those marrying in the Church of Scotland. There were a variety of other forms of marriage that were recognised and some that were not entered/missing books. etc.

18 June 1742 Montrose, Angus
James Padkin to Helen Aitkin

I note that one of Janet Padkin/Philip Stodart's daughters was called Helen.


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That's incredible! How do you do that. What is SP and OPR?

These have to be the right people, there are so many similarities.

Thank you so much.

Margaret

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Hi Margaret

OPRs are the Old Parish/Parochial Records of the Church of Scotland; the main source of baptism, marriage and burial information in Scotland pre-1855 when statutory registration came in.  They only cover the established Church of Scotland (Presbyterian) records so, if ancestors were of Roman Catholic or other non-conformist faith, they wouldn't be included.

These records can be consulted at the General Records Office/National Archives in Edinburgh, the Mitchell Library in Glasgow and some of the larger records offices in Scotland. They can also be hired as film from LDS Family History Centres. Alternatively, they are available online via Scotlands People (SP) at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk on a reasonably priced credit purchase basis.  Some, but not all, are online for free via the LDS website - www.familysearch.org


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Hi again

I've just been looking for Mary Stoddart in online trees. There is one called the Ritter tree which is obviously Mary (1803,  Lanark - 1881, Ontario) and has your John as her brother.

There seems to be a very major error - whoever entered it is not too good with arithmatic - her parents are given as James Stoddart (1820- 1858) and Elizabeth Lnu (no dates) another gives her mother as Elizabeth Rowan (no dates) and same father with a sister b. 1841 and a brother b. 1843.

I think the information that I've given is the most accurate.


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added - I see that you've also got one up with the same dates for her father