Author Topic: Understanding BMD marriage results COMPLETED  (Read 1492 times)

Offline bigjon

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 516
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Understanding BMD marriage results COMPLETED
« on: Sunday 22 February 09 09:31 GMT (UK) »
I have found the marriage of Robert Bower in1851 in Mansfield  ( v 15 p 825 ).
When I enter the quarter, volume and page to find all who were married on that day, I come up with only 3 names - 2 men and 1 woman. How can this be?
 What I am trying to find is who married Robert Bower - I have her on several census' as Elizabeth.

bigjon
Bennett, Tennant, Richards, Price.....Staffordshire
Reid, Brown, Harrison, Saunders, Coetzer........South Africa and Scotland.

Offline charlotteCH

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 5,175
  • Genealogy's worth chatting about.
    • View Profile
Re: Understanding BMD marriage results
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 February 09 09:41 GMT (UK) »
Which quarter of 1851 is your Robert Bower shown as having married?

Have you found him in 1851 & 1861 census and if so has he a wife in tow? What name has she there?

On another thread this problem with 2 men and one woman on the page of freebmd marriages was being discussed just the other day but I can't remember where it was- not a very helpful reamrk I'm afraid.

charlotte

Offline MaryA

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 9,309
  • St Chads, Kirkby
    • View Profile
Re: Understanding BMD marriage results
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 February 09 09:58 GMT (UK) »
The indexes on FreeBMD, or Ancestry for that matter since they use the same database, are still in the process of transcription and MAY not be complete, therefore the other name may be awaiting uploading.

The alternative is that the page number on the image is unclear and so perfect matching can't take place.

Do as Charlotte says and see if there is a wife with him in the next census and then look at the same quarter for marriages, all entries for the first name and district and check the page numbers of each to see if one has say - [8]25 or [3]25 or something like that, and then look at the image for yourself to see if you think you could definitely say that it matched the one you are looking for.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

Offline Richard Knott

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,226
    • View Profile
Re: Understanding BMD marriage results
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 February 09 10:13 GMT (UK) »
This was the thread Charlotte was referring to:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,361921.msg2391357.html#msg2391357

At first glance there isn't an obvious candidate. There are three men and four women under Mansfield 15 823, one of whom is Elizabeth Hill, but her entry is definitely 823.

However, there could just be an error in the original index as there is an Elizabeth Hill, b 1833 in Hucknall Under Huthwaite, on the 1851 census that matches later entries. She is living virtually next door to Robert Bower (he is on the previous page) so she looks a strong candidate.

Richard
All the families I am researching are listed on the main page here:
www.64regencyancestors.com

Census: Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Offline charlotteCH

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 5,175
  • Genealogy's worth chatting about.
    • View Profile
Re: Understanding BMD marriage results
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 February 09 10:23 GMT (UK) »
Richard,
 Thank you...

charlotte

Offline willsmum

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 270
    • View Profile
Re: Understanding BMD marriage results
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 February 09 10:43 GMT (UK) »
From Notts marriage index :

Robert Bower married Elizabeth Hill, 23rd June 1851,
Sutton - in - Ashfield.

Regards
Willsmum.
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.UK

Offline charlotteCH

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 5,175
  • Genealogy's worth chatting about.
    • View Profile
Re: Understanding BMD marriage results
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 February 09 12:05 GMT (UK) »
willsmum, that's a great result . Bigjon will be delighted to have that.

charlotte

Offline Richard Knott

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,226
    • View Profile
Re: Understanding BMD marriage results
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 February 09 19:58 GMT (UK) »
All is revealed: it is Robert's entry that has been mistranscribed.

If you click on the 825 and look at the original, his is a small late entry, but clearly says 823 (the same as Elizabeth Hill).

Richard
All the families I am researching are listed on the main page here:
www.64regencyancestors.com

Census: Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline charlotteCH

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 5,175
  • Genealogy's worth chatting about.
    • View Profile
Re: Understanding BMD marriage results
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 February 09 03:41 GMT (UK) »
So the lesson for us all is that transcribers are wonderful and generous with their time  but they are  not infallible.

charlotte