John CONDUIT c1812 to 1863

[essexclark]

I am trying to find the correct birth/baptism information for John Conduit.  According to the census and his death records, he was born about 1812 in Fisherton, Salisbury.  His baptism has not been found among the Church of England baptisms in Salisbury or any of it's 9 surounding parishes, including Fisherton Anger. 
He married Emma Fruen (c1812-1874) on 8/11/1834 at St Clements, Fisherton, Salisbury.  I have a copy of the marriage record and John's death record.
John died 17/10/1863 and his death was registered in the Amesbury District, aged 51yrs.  He was buried on 21/10/1863 in Woodford.  His occupation was a Miller, Baker then Master Baker and Grocer.  Perhaps that was also the occupation of his father, as some of this sons followed the trade.
Many researchers have his parents as William Cundick/Conduit and Ann Spicer.  This is not the correct parents, as their John b. 1809, was not born in Fisherton and also died in 1810.  Others have William Conduit and Sarah Clark.  I don't believe this is correct also, because their John was born in 1806 and once again not in Fisherton.
Any help would be greatly appreciated and knowing the exact information on any documents found or how to get a copy of them may lead us a little closer to finding his parents.
Thank you.
Diane

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[Elizabeth Revel]

The iGI has a christening for a John Conduit to parents James Conduit and Elizabeth,
29 Jan 1815, at Durnford, Wiltshire. According to Google maps the distance between Durnford and Fisherton Anger is only 3.7 miles.

The IGI has only the submitted record for their marriage which you quote.

Beth

[davierj]

The 1851 census, HO107/1845/097/065, shows a John Conduit, age 32, born Fisherton Anger, with wife Emma and children Harry, Mary, Josiah, James Prudence, Hester, Richard and Martha, occupation baker.    They were living at Woodford.   The census puts his birth date at circa 1819.   FreeBMD records a death of a John Conduit 1863 Dec qtr, Amesbury district, 5a/127.   As Woodford was in this district he could have died there.

From your records, is this the correct Conduit family?

Dave

[essexclark]

Thank you to both Beth and Dave for your replies. 

First Beth, we have seen the baptism for a John Conduit in 1815 and are keeping it in mind, though we don't think it is the correct John.  Our John was consistant in recoreding his age to work out to c1812-1813. 

Second Dave.  I have the original 1851 census and there is a mistake in the transcription.  He was originally recorded as 38 years old, but all the males were recorded in the wrong column on the census.  A new column was ruled up for the ages of the males on the census, but when they transferred his age across to the new coloum they wrote 32 instead of 38.  38 yeas old worked out to his birth year as 1813.  I am guessing that he was born either mid to late 1812 or very early 1813 as other census have his age working out to 1812.  His first child was born in 1835.  If he was born in 1819 as his age on the 1851 census has been transcribed, he would have only been 16 when Henry was born.

We have recently received the original registration for his marriage to Emma Fruen on 6/11/1834 at St Clements, Fisherton Anger.  Two of the witnesses on their marriage were Sameul Jewell and Harriet Conduit, who married at the same church in 1835.  John Fruen (Emma's Brother) was also a witness.  We believe that Harriet Conduit was a sister of John's.  From her census records she states her birth place as Great Durnford and YOB works out to be about 1810.  I believe that Durnford is a strong possibility for the birth place of John and as far as I know, not all the baptism records have been transcribed as yet. 

Thanks again to you both for your help,
Diane

[davierj]

It appears the IGI christening records in Fisherton Anger start at 1813, so John Conduit may have been baptised before the records started.   There is a baptism for a John Conduit in Durnford 29 Jan 1815 son of James Conduit and Elizabeth.   
Dave

[essexclark]

Hi Dave,

Beth also mentioned that baptism for a John Conduit in Durnford.  We have seen if before and are keeping it in mind, but at this stage we don't feel it was the right one due to his consistancy in recording his age on the census and his age at death - 51 yrs in 1863.  Wiltshire and Swindon Records Office have never mentioned that Fisherton Anger records only started in 1813.  If that is the case it would explain why we haven't found John there or if Harriet Conduit was also baptised there, then her also.  We are fairly certain that if he was baptised in Fisherton, then it would have been at St Clements.  That is where both John and Harriet Condit married in 1834 & 1835 and is where John's first child Henry was baptised in November 1835.

Thanks for your help,
Diane

[davierj]

Record office registers of baptisms for Fisherton Anger go back to 1654 BUT IGI records start in 1813.
Dave
 

[davierj]

Hi, not a lot of conclusive information for John Conduit.   The only Fisherton Anger Conduit baptism is 22 Nov 1835 Henry John Conduit, son of John and Emma, Miller.
Their marriage in Fisherton Anger
6 Nov 1834 John Conduit, otp, and Emma Fruen, otp, banns.   Witnesses Samuel Jewell, John Fruen, Harriet Cavendish??, Ann?? Blanchett.   ?? indicates the writing was difficult to read and is my best guess.

There are some relevant baptisms in Durnford.......
6 Jul 1806 John Conduit son of William and Sarah (not likely in view of other evidence)

29 Jan 1815 John Conduit son of James and Elizabeth, Durnford, Miller
16 Mar 1817 William Conduit as above (born 9 April1817)
14 May 1820 Martha conduit dau as above (born 30 Apr 1820)
This John seems more likely - father was a miller.   The parish changed vicar after 1815 and the new one recorded births as well, pity he wasn't there earlier as a birth date for John would have been very useful.   Perhaps you may be able to match his siblings.

Woodford burials....
John Conduit, Middle Woodford, 21 Oct 1863, age 51, vicar R.M. Chatford M.A.
Emma Conduit, Woodford, 2 Apr 1874, age 62, vicar as above.

Dave

[davierj]

Almost forgot Emma.   I was unable to find any Fruen baptisms in Durnford but the following in Fisherton Anger..

19 Nov 1815 John Henry, son of Thos and Mary, lab
22 Feb 1818 Mary, dau of Wm and Elizabeth
5 Oct 1823 James, son of William and Elizabeth, lab

Dave