Where would I start, if I can? (post in 3 posts)

[liverpool annie]

1871 he was at the Royal Hotel in Elora ! and Thomas Vickers was in 1867 at the same place  !

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~sday/thesis/wellingtonKeepers6731.htm

[liverpool annie]

As I can't keep all the names straight .....     and they all keep changing names ... thought I'd throw this in the hat !! ... just in case !!

BALLARD alias VICKERS, Jane, f, Dec 7 1870, 33 years, Newcastle England, cause - consumption, infm - Henry Ballard, Pickering (Ontario Co) 006509-70

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/death/deathindex_ba-bd_new.htm

[liverpool annie]

Joseph BORDON, Mary Jane VICKERS, March 17, 1870, at Royal Hotel, Elora

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/welg70.htm

[J.J.]

Hi Annie & Karen...thanks for joining in!

Actually she's probably the Trina ( Tina?) ...age 11...I was trying to get on the past ages but was shut out...UGH...Hate that...
Yeah, if you read all the little junk I put on in urls it talks about the hotel and such...

[J.J.]

Elsie ROSS??? what have you found, Annie ? the Ross connection? 

You're doing great...I'm off...see you all tomorrow...
Chilly hugses! J.J.

[Daisy Loo]

lol  oh my!  You have all totally lost me!

I can see I am going to have to go through all the posts carefully!

Hi Karen & Annie, as JJ has already said, thanks for joining in!

I can't believe the info already found, this is fantastic...the family in Canada are going to be astounded at what has been found.  When the grandson is next online, I will try and get as much info as possible, but I don't know how much help he will be, as he didn't even know that Christina was Margaret's birth mother!

I see that you all work away when I'm asleep (or trying to, if my little laad lets me!), so please accept my apologies for not answering sooner.

I am going to put my lad for his nap, then come back to these posts, and re-read them all.

Thanks again everyone, this is fantastic!

Daisy Loo

[polarbear]

Hello everyone

Here is more of the family in 1891...living in Bruce County

Frank Vicker (no 's') 65 Widower
Ann M 18
Meta R 16
Nina M E 13

No sign of Frank Jr. anywhere so far but in the 1901 Census there is a Frank Vickers 20, b. 31 Mar 1881, that matches the 1881 Census. He is a Boarder in Elora; couldn't see a connection to the people he is living with.

Also in the 1901 Census...

Meta Vickers  26, b. 12 Feb 1884
Nina Vickers  23, b. 30 Nov 1887

The 2 ladies are "adopted daughters" of John and Mary J Johns (forgot where they are living)

We know that Ann Maria married from an earlier post...I haven't looked for her in 1901 yet.

We have Christina Vickers in 1891 as age 21 and deceased about 10 years later age 31.

Pondering....Trina/Tina is 11 years old in the 1881 Census. Could she be Christina? If so, she was born prior to the marriage of Jane and Francis. I was wondering if she could be the daughter of Jane, making her legal name McIntosh and the reason Margaret was a McIntosh in the 1891 Census?

What an interesting thread!

Polarbear

[Daisy Loo]

Okay, so just to try and organise what has been found so far:

The Adoptive Family:

1891 Census:
William John Bryans (b.1866/7- Ireland) - Occupation, farmer
Eveline Annie      (b.1866/7 - England)
1901 Census
William John, Eveline & 3 Kids, Stanley, Rita & Fanny
1911 Census
William John, Eveline, Stanley, Rita, Fanny, Harold and Maggie (b.1890, Origin- Scotch)

So, finally in 1911 we have Margaret/Maggie living with the Bryans, as their adopted daughter.

What do we know now about Margaret.

On her marriage Cert, in 1915, she was listed as aged 24, making her birth year 1891
Her father was listed as W J Bryans, mother, E A Bryans   So far everything fits

We have a photo naming Christina Vickers as her mother, who died in 1900, when Margaret was 9 years old.

Ooh Polar Bear, your post has just come through, and you are way ahead of me!

[Daisy Loo]

To Continue...(for me as much as anyone new who may jon the thread)

JJ then found Christina Vickers in 1881, living with a Christina Webster, and little Margaret surname McIntosh just 8 months.  Christina is a dressmaker.

Death of Christina in 1900, also gave her birth, in 1870, in Elora, Ont



Then the discovery of all the other people, which I haven't managed to get my head round yet!