Margaret BOSWELL in Chatham, KENT Help needed

[bearkat]

Hi Joyce and welcome to Rootschat. 

It might be worth posting a reply to this thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,309864.0.html
Moderator Comment: topics now merged

[tiggi]

not sure if this is any help but found a family called boswell in
 1901 Census chatham St Paul  Medway kent
John Boswell  54 b 1847 Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Margaret Boswell 64 b 1837 Strood, Kent ( wife)

John it says on Census was a Shoemaker  and something about Navy men/man private royal marines ?

The only other I could find was this
1901 census Barking St Margaret  Essex
margaret Boswell  6 b 1895 grandaughter born barking
David Boswell 63 b 1838 Whitechapel, London
Eleanor Boswell 28 b 1873 Stepney london daughter of David
Davis is listed as a cabinet maker

[tiggi]

marriage :
Margaret M  Boswell -  Henry Hedges
 3rd quarter 1914 medway kent 2a 1725

[deb usa]

Hi Everyone

Popping over from the "Hedges' Thread...

Just a thought .....

I am wondering if Margaret isn't the daughter of Ellen/Eleanor and John is a 'fictious' father

Following on from Tiggi's find in 1901

We find David Boswell (1838)  married to Margaret :

 1871= St George in The East, London
78 Sutton st
 David Boswell 35 
Margaret  37 
Ellen  3 
David W  2

1881 =   St John Hackney
23 Clarence Rd
David Boswell 36  age ?? 
Margaret 35  age ?? 
Ellen  13 
David  12 

1891 = Barking, Essex
David Boswell 40  ...they never seem to age 
Margaret 36 
Ellen  20 
John May 26  ...born Hackney

1901 ...see Tiggi's post

1911
Romford Essex
in The same household as Margaret Boswell b 1893
David Boswell b 1838
Ellen Boswell b 1869


so I wonder if this is Margaret's Birth Registration
Margaret Ellen Boswell ...Middle name = Mother's name?
Jun q 1895 - Romford, Essex
Vol 4a pg 446 

Maybe JOHN May of the 1891 census is her dad?

deb

oops ... added ... Just seen Tiggi's marriage Margaret has middle intial "M" ..so can't be Margaret Ellen 

[J.J.]

Boswell gypsy/travellers on earlier censuses...a few Johns listed....wonder if perhaps the birth might not have been listed if they were travelling...
http://romanygenes2.webeden.co.uk/#/census18613/4526606214
http://www.romanygenes.webeden.co.uk/#/newcensus/4529826973
and here, Levis Bosswell, a gypsy leader,was a horse dealer
http://www.romanygenes.webeden.co.uk/#/grandolddukkerindays/4527668317
Here a Lazarus & an Alfred are horse dealers ( use scroll at bottom)
http://romanygenes2.webeden.co.uk/#/census1881/4526695226

apparently "Boss'll" was synonymous with "gypsy"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Gypsies#Boswells

[J.J.]

Looked for M* M* B*l and didn't see a  M__ Margaret  or Margaret M____ although she might have been given the middle name if/when christened....and if Margaret was her middle name but used most often, then also a toughie....

Was hoping the names of her children might leave a clue...prolific family
They had a dozen children all told, starting with twins!
Daisy & Violet, John, George,  Rose A. E., Arthur, William H.,  Ellen L., Margaret M, A.,  Percy A., Joyce V., George T.,

In 1901 there is a John Boswell, age 33 , Lancashire, Much Hoole with occupation down as "Travelling Gipsies"
also one age 33 in Walworth London / St John occ: Horsekeeper
One age 50  Llandysilio /Travelling In Caravan...likely the one from above in 1861
but can't see intothe actual census images...anyone of interest?

[J.J.]

well, reaching for straws a little but here's mention of a gypsy Daisy Boswell, Blackpool, one of gypsy Sarah's granddaughters..
http://www.archive.org/stream/journalofgypsylo05gypsuoft/journalofgypsylo05gypsuoft_djvu.txt

[charmed_one]

hi

The only info I have re Henry Hedges Carter and Margaret Boswell is as follows


B1891Q4 as "Carter, Henry Hedges" Medway 2a/087 M1914Q3 Medway 2a/1725; No 140 Labourer, H M Dockyard Chatham Private, Transport 16th Bat: Middlesex Regiment H0877 or 40877 demobilized 19 April 1919 at Crystal Palace.

The only Margaret Boswell born in the appropriate range was Margaret Ann Boswell born Q3 1891 in Manchester (Lancashire) 8d/301 The only Margaret Boswell in the 1901 Census was aged 9 and lived Salford, Lancashire. Father Terrance Boswell was a brick-layer! -------------------------------Married Medway Q3 1914 as Margaret Marion with father as "John Boswell, Horse Dealer" Death Medway 1935 No 289 as Margaret Annie Could this William Alfred Boswell born 1854Q4 Medway 2a/269 be related?

Hope it helps. 

My nan is Margaret Boswells niece- Ivy Giddins now Goulden

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[seamandaughter]

hi there,i am seeking my mum's family who was boswell family.1930 who lived levenshulme manchester as far as i know .well i new i had romany  ancestors but we didn't ever get told anything ,my mum was an evacuee 1939.on her birthcertificate it sez turner,as it turns out my mums mum was boswell ,her dad turner,an there were more children but i cant find anything.any help would be much apreciated .thank you regards pamela