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Re: marriage licence phrases, need help with understanding
« Reply #18 on: Monday 09 March 09 20:08 GMT (UK) »

Precontract would appear to be the right word too.

Link to examples of marriage licences:
http://www.sog.org.uk/vg/vgsample.htm

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Re: marriage licence phrases, need help with understanding
« Reply #19 on: Monday 09 March 09 20:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Koromo

Exactly,  ;D it looks like precontract? consanguinity affinity......

I'm going to have to look that up in the dictionary.


Kerry

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Re: marriage licence phrases, need help with understanding
« Reply #20 on: Monday 09 March 09 21:05 GMT (UK) »

Precontract would appear to be the right word too.

Link to examples of marriage licences:
http://www.sog.org.uk/vg/vgsample.htm

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Hi Koromo

Brilliant link, thanks and I went and looked into the dictionary and yes it is precontract, exactly as the first example on the link.

Kerry  :)
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Re: marriage licence phrases, need help with understanding
« Reply #21 on: Monday 09 March 09 21:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Koromo

Exactly,  ;D it looks like precontract? consanguinity affinity......

I'm going to have to look that up in the dictionary.


Kerry

Without wishing to appear flippant - I couldn't help being reminded of Blackadder and the dictionary episode   ::)  ;D
Oh yes, I remember that one. 

My OH was a bit flippant when I told him I wanted the dictionary to look up consanguinity.  ;D ::)

Kerry
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Re: marriage licence phrases, need help with understanding
« Reply #22 on: Monday 09 March 09 22:15 GMT (UK) »
The key reason for getting a copy of a licence is that sometimes it is for the marriage of people some distance apart and the licence may give a location for one of the parties not stated elsewhere

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Re: marriage licence phrases, need help with understanding
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 28 March 09 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Koromo

Exactly,  ;D it looks like precontract? consanguinity affinity......

I'm going to have to look that up in the dictionary.

Kerry
Hi Kerry,

"If anyone here knows of any consanquinity or spritual relationship while these two people should not be joined in HOLY MATRIMONY , let them speak now, or forever hold their peace"..

I am a little older than most on here, but as a child I remember my mother trying to explain this to me at her sisters (my Aunties) wedding) in the 1930's . In other words marrying someone very close in the family OR who had been betrothed "promised" and broke their former contract with former person, and then married a different person at that moment in church or Registery Office...There was no such paper needed, only the verbal
announcement of the engagement in the presence of others at a time before the wedding..

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Re: marriage licence phrases, need help with understanding
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 29 March 09 07:42 BST (UK) »
I have two people in a very old part of my tree whose marriage was dissolved on the grounds of consanguinuity - they were only 3rd cousins!!!

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Re: marriage licence phrases, need help with understanding
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 29 March 09 07:52 BST (UK) »
Hi stonechat (lovely bird),

Could it perhaps be that property matters were what were really important to those involved and that so-called consanguinity (good grief, 3rd cousins!!!  Pull the other leg!) was nothing but an excuse.

I have far too many marriages of 1st cousins (my children's paternal side I hasten to add) to think that the church (wherever - England or Scotland as mine were) could possibly have baulked at a 3rd cousin marriage!

The royal families, including the Brits, would have been long gone - no comment!

JAP
PS: Hi Raphael, Stop boasting!  We might all end up having to admit how ancient we are.  ;D

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Re: marriage licence phrases, need help with understanding
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 29 March 09 09:10 BST (UK) »
Mine was pure and simply that Peter was marrying for the third time, I had assumed that both other wives had died but have not found deaths yet, in fact not sure who the first wife was!

Kerry
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