How to progress.....

[Barbara F]

This is why i wondered about a Smith/Boucher marriage

Marriages Jun 1907

BOUCHER  Annie Maria    Wandsworth  1d 727   
HARVEY  Henry Thomas     Wandsworth  1d 727   
SMITH  Charles William     Wandsworth  1d 727   
WHITE  Louise Emma     Wandsworth  1d 727   


Barbara

[silvery]

The references are at the bottom of the 'view record' page (tab on left hand side of ancestry list of names you have searched for)

RG13/ 483/51/40

George Boucher 40 waterman/lighterman barge
Harriett Boucher 41
Annie Boucher    19
Pamela Boucher 19
Georgina Boucher 14
Lily Boucher 9
Charles Smith    19

[Hazel17]

I've sneaked back on again. Thanks for looking that up Silvery.

I looked at the original 1901 and it says Joiners Carpenter to me. I see why they might accidentally transcribe it as fancy confectioner though.

I think this is Charles' birth registration. Brentford covers Chiswick and a September birth could easily be registered in the December quarter.

Births Dec 1881   
Charles William Smith     Brentford  3a 98   

 Henry seems to prefer Southmapton as his place of brith as I think in 1881 they are living at:
Hope Cottage Chiswick
Henry Smith age 26 b Southampton House Carpenter
wife Anne Smith born 1858 Newport Pagnell
nephew William Craft shop boy age 14 b Newport Pagnell
niece Jane Wood age 11 born Newport Pagnell

I looked for Henry and Annie's marriage but it wasn't easy to spot. I would order that birth certifcate and see what it gives you.

[Navigator]

That was an outstanding experience, many thanks for all your prompt and enthusiastic help.

Hazel17, that will move me on, obviously some of my oral history is defective.

Barbara F, the link with the BOUCHERS confirms the information, I have previously researched them, much easier than SMITH.

I will be ordering the birth certificate tonight.

Again many thanks to all.

[Navigator]

Hello all again, I'm STILL stuck on making progress with my SMITH family.  Can I ask for some more advice please?

Following advice received on my last visit, I now have my paternal grandfather's (Charles William) birth certificate.  I already had his marriage and death ones.  All these certificates' details agree but I cannot locate his parent's wedding certificate.  I have scoured all the internet sites I have found but no luck, two found on the 1911 census do not match.  The last good reference I can find is on the 1901 census RG 13/452 p 139 where his father and mother are shown living in Lubeck Street Battersea.

Their names were HENRY SMITH and ANNIE SMITH (née COOK).  Her place of birth is shown as Newport Pagnell (1891 and 1901) but his is shown as Southampton (1891) and then Luton (1901).

What is the best way to proceed now?

Thanks in advance.

[Laurina]

Approximately what year do you think they married ?

Laurina

[Laurina]

Do you have the 1881 Census? - other relations with them

Laurina

[Laurina]

1881 Census RG11/1352/17/28 Hope Cottage, Chiswick, Middlesex

Henry Smith, 26, Head - House Carpenter, Southampton
Anne Smith, 23, Wife, Newport Pagnell
William Craft, 14, Nephew - Shop boy, Newport Pagnell
Jane Wood, 11, Niece - Scholar, Newport Pagnell

Laurina

[Laurina]

1871 Census RG10/1419/74/3 - Marsh End, Newport Pagnell

David Cook 42  Head  - Newport Pagnell - Fellmonger
Rose Cook 44  Wife - Wellingborough
William Cook 18  Son - Bermondsey, London - Parchment Maker
Edward Cook 14  Son - Newport Pagnell - Fellmonger
Ann Cook 13  Daug - Newport Pagnell
Rebecca Cook 5  Daug - Newport Pagnell
George Cook 7 Son - Newport Pagnell

Laurina