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Elizabeth Murray was born in Duffus in 1803; she later married John Slorach of Forres (in 1828 in Golspie - not sure why) and gave birth to my gg-grandad Charles Skene Slora (I think!)

Any ideas on deciphering the birth certificate, please?

Roxburgh/Rock/O'Rouk - Edinburgh/Glasgow/Australia
Slora/Slorach - Edinburgh/Aberdeen/Moray
Roberts/Robert - Edinburgh/Torphichen
Cochrane - Edinburgh
Johnston - Shetland/Australia
Davison - Sunderland
Curtis - Sunderland/Norfolk
Shirran - Aberdeenshire/Edinburgh
Rettie - Aberdeenshire
Leng - Sunderland
Lay - Sunderland
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 March 09 18:36 GMT (UK) »
Ignoring the 'both in Burghead' - from the previous entry, I think that it reads:

"Oct 4th 1803  Elizabeth, maternal daughter to John Murray and Margaret Jeans in Arrydykes (?) was (named) and bapt'd 8th inst (?).  Witt'd Peter Murray in Bishopmill.  (?) Jeans in Arrydykes (?) May 28th 1802 (next entry) and Elizabeth Murray in Forres"

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Roxburgh/Rock/O'Rouk - Edinburgh/Glasgow/Australia
Slora/Slorach - Edinburgh/Aberdeen/Moray
Roberts/Robert - Edinburgh/Torphichen
Cochrane - Edinburgh
Johnston - Shetland/Australia
Davison - Sunderland
Curtis - Sunderland/Norfolk
Shirran - Aberdeenshire/Edinburgh
Rettie - Aberdeenshire
Leng - Sunderland
Lay - Sunderland
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 March 09 21:50 GMT (UK) »
I think the word is "natural" not maternal, & the name (?) is Alexr.
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE, WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER, JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW, IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE, WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.

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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 March 09 21:58 GMT (UK) »
I agree with "natural".

I'd say Arnydykes and would say that the mother was possibly Margaret Lewis?

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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson


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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 March 09 22:01 GMT (UK) »
Actually, ignore the Lewis bit from my last post,  on second viewing, I'll go with Jeans.

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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 March 09 22:11 GMT (UK) »
MURRAY
Oct 4th 1803 Elizabeth, natural
daughter to John Murray and Margaret Jeans in Armydykes was
was baptd the 8th [...] (doesn't look like 'inst' but probably the only thing that fits).  Witts Peter Murry in Bishopmilne, Alexr
Jeans in Armydykes &c May 28 1802 and Elizabeth
Murray in For[r]es.

The dates are a bit weird - not sure how 28th May 1802 fits in  ???

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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 March 09 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Thanks.

I'll go along with 'natural' and 'Alexander'.  I also thought 'Lewis'!

I am having difficulty finding a place called Arnydykes (or any variation that I can think of).

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Roxburgh/Rock/O'Rouk - Edinburgh/Glasgow/Australia
Slora/Slorach - Edinburgh/Aberdeen/Moray
Roberts/Robert - Edinburgh/Torphichen
Cochrane - Edinburgh
Johnston - Shetland/Australia
Davison - Sunderland
Curtis - Sunderland/Norfolk
Shirran - Aberdeenshire/Edinburgh
Rettie - Aberdeenshire
Leng - Sunderland
Lay - Sunderland
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 March 09 22:16 GMT (UK) »
The dates are a bit weird. 

It looks like Elizabeth's details were added later.  The previous record is dated April 1st 1802 and the record after is dated May 28th 1802 - so why is Elizabeth dated Oct 4th 1803?

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Roxburgh/Rock/O'Rouk - Edinburgh/Glasgow/Australia
Slora/Slorach - Edinburgh/Aberdeen/Moray
Roberts/Robert - Edinburgh/Torphichen
Cochrane - Edinburgh
Johnston - Shetland/Australia
Davison - Sunderland
Curtis - Sunderland/Norfolk
Shirran - Aberdeenshire/Edinburgh
Rettie - Aberdeenshire
Leng - Sunderland
Lay - Sunderland
Rogers/Rodgers - Sunderland

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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 March 09 22:17 GMT (UK) »
For anyone interested in the surname Jeans,there are 182 names mentioned in the records of www.libindx.moray.gov.uk
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE, WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER, JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW, IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE, WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.