Temple Village Midlothian

[lanarman]

Hello Archie:
Will try to answer your questions. I do not know what their occupations were; some are listed as "Indweller" which I presume means "citizen" ?? My family came to Canada in 1828 from Cambuslang, Glasgow. I have traced my ancestry back to a James Umpherston born in 1723 but lived in Glasgow from about 1745 onwards. His burial record says that he was 45 years old in 1768 when he died and was buried in High Church cemetery, Glasgow. There are only 2 James Umpherstons born in 1723, according to the IGI and I have eliminated one of them. The  other James I found born in 1723 (who is most likely my 5th G Grandfather) was born to William Umpherston and Isobel Mark in Lasswade. William is recorded as an "Indwellar in Puttingstonlaw", wherever that is or was. I then found William and Isobels marriage in 1721 in Lasswade and some of their children baptized in Temple-  thats when I posted the request. I have seen most of the Umpherston data that you list, but not the Mark information. 
As for the different marriage dates- I wonder if the earlier dates refer to banns and the later date to the actual marriage?
THANKS for the compliments. I am one proud Canuck with great pride in my Scottish roots
  And I live about a 2 hour drive from Campbellford, Ontario.
Thanks again.
lanarman

[Templar75]

Hi lanerman,

                   I have tried looking at old maps but unable to find Puttingstonlaw, however, the name Puttingston or Puttingstone means, some heavy stones were piled at the gates of great houses and used in trials of strength. Puttingston, the " Ton " at the end means it would have been a Farm of some kind. I have asked the locals for their help on this and await their reply.

" Indweller " meant that the person or persons resided within that area, would have been recognised by the locals as being Ok, if not they would have been known as " Strangers "

Are you near Peterboro.

Best.

Archie.

[lanarman]

Archie:
That would be a bonus to find the origin/location of Puttingstonlaw.

Are you in Temple/Lasswade? Thats where one branch of the Umpherston/Umphrastoun (of that Ilk) originate from. Another branch in Berwickshire and the Borders area. My family seems to have moved from one of these areas (probably Temple/Lasswade) circa 1745 to Glasgow where he was a weaver and maltman (mostly a weaver). No other Umpherstons in Glasgow before that.

I've sent you a private message.

Best regards,
lanarman

[Templar75]

Private message in your box, if I get an answer about Puttingston Law I will get right back to you.

If I can be of any more help just give me a shout.

Best.

Archie.

[aferguson]

Hello Archie,

I don't know if this thread is already closed as it is almost a month from the last posting.  I came across it ony a couple of days ago while looking for info.

I am researching the following families from Temple Village:
Sprott (the earliest date I have is a William Sprott born 27 Dec 1696),
Moffat (Euphan Moffat (no DOB) married William Sprott (no DOB) - parents of the above William - on 28 Feb 1696)
Walker (Janet Walker (no DOB) married William Sprott (the son) on 23 Aug 1723)  

Do you perhaps have any info on them?

Many thanks
Karolyn

[Templar75]

Hi Karolyn,

There are no Sprotts on my records buried at Temple and the others you are looking for are  not listed as well, however they may be in the OPR's which I do not have yet.

I believe that the Temple burial ground holds more than is mentioned, I only have the 1888 - 1996 records though I do have incriptions from the older stones, I believe that each lair could hold as many as 10 coffins.

I have tried as best possible to get the names you want, however, when there is very little to go on it makes it harder to trace them, there are quite a lot of Sprotts in surrounding areas, would you like me to send these onto you ?.

Best regards.

Archie.


CHRISTENINGS AT TEMPLE

Agnes Sprott 29 August 1694 parents John Sprott and Agnes Kinnaird.

Helen Sprott 19 January 1696 parents John Sprott and Agnes Kinnaird.

William Sprot 14 April 1725 parents William Sprott and Janet Walker.

Helen Sprot 23 October 1727 parents William Sprott and Janet Walker.

Margaret Sprot 13 March 1730 William Sprott and Janet Walker.

John Sprot 19 December 1732 William Sprott and Janet Walker.

Thomas Sprot 2 November 1735 William Sprott and Janet Walker.

Margaret Sprot 27 March 1743 William Sprott and Janet Walker.

James Sprot 25 February 1739 Parents John Sprot and Marion Sprot.

MARRIAGES AT TEMPLE

William Sprot married Janet Walker 23 August 1723.Janet's father was John Walker.

Helen Sprot married William Robinson 14 August 1747.

Ann Sprott married James Henry 22 March 1752.

Mary Sprott married James Brockie 31 January 1762.

Rebecka Sprott married William Taitt 20 December 1767.

Rebeckah Sprott married Robert Marchell 18 May 1770.

NEWTON

At Newton there is the birth of Janet Wallker born 8 November 1699 parents John Wallker and Heallen Hoge.

INVERESK AND MUSSELBURGH

Janet Walker 8 January 1882 parents John Walker and Grisel Spindie.

Janet Walker 27 October 1895 parents John Walker and Margaret Sinclair .

[jbryce]

Hi Archie - wonder if you can help me.  My G Grandfather James Bryce's birth in 1849 was registered in Temple.  His father Adam was listed in Braidwood, Parish of Temple, in the 1841 census.  Adam's father James b 1780 was born in Eight Mile Burn, Parish of Penicuik to James and Janet Veitch.  After the birth of James in 1780 there are no other records of the parents.  Wondered if you might have something on them in Temple.

Thanks in advance for any info.  I have enjoyed looking at your photos and reading your info. 

[Templar75]

Hi Jbryce,

PENICUIK

It seems that James and Adam are twins and perhaps Janet passed away after the birth, that is if the James mentioned is the same father of John, if I am correct then that is why you are unable to trace them any further.

I would think that James 1880 is the father of James 1815.

I have checked the whole county for James and Janet Veitch but this all I can find on them, one entry.

Below you will see I have put something in about the Veitch families

I can send you all the other Bryce families if you want ?, please let me know.

I don’t have any burials at Temple for either Bryce or Veitch, records from 1888 – 1996, I have more work to do on this when I have time.

Best regards.

Archie.

PENICUIK

John Bryce born 18 December 1775 parents James Bryce and Janet Veitch.

James Bryce 1 November 1780 father James Bryce no mothers name.

Adam Bryce 1 November 1780 father James Bryce no mothers name.

James Bryce 7 May 1815 parents James Bryce and Margaret Scott, this couple seem to appear in Lasswade below.

TEMPLE

James Bryce born 4 March 1849 parents Adam Bryce and Mary Erskine

STOBHILL

James Bryce born 28 January 1874 parents James Bryce and Agnes McIntosh

LASSWADE

Adam Bryce born 20 July 1823 parents James Bryce and Margaret Scott

George Bryce born 8 May 1827 parents James Bryce and Margaret Scott



TOTAL ABSTINENCE SOCIETY

Robert Veich Treasurer

The Ship William Stevenson
Sailed from Liverpool to Adelaide 7 November 1854

PASSENGERS

Euphemia Veich 14 yrs old Servant Penicuik with parents no mention of the parents name unless they are Adam and Mary below.

Adam Veich 42 yrs old Agricuktural Labourer Penicuik
Mary Reid Wife 39 yrs Robert Veich son 12 yrs Betsy/Elizabeth Veich 9 yrs daughter Agnes Veich 6 yrs daughter WilliamVeich 3 yrs son

[aferguson]

Hi Archie,

Many thanks for that info.  I would greatly appreciate any assistance you can give me. 

I am researching my husband's line and Margaret Sprott DOB 1743 is his 4 x great grandmother.  I am however interested in what happened to her siblings.

Best regards
Karolyn