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1861 or 1871 look up for John MORGAN born Bridgend 1853
« on: Wednesday 11 March 09 10:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Don't know if anyone can find John Morgan born 1853 Bridgend in the 1861 or 1871 census to find his family.  Might be too common a name to find him.

By 1881 he is married to Harriet from Cardiff and living Britton-Ferry.
I cannot find their marriage at the moment.

Any info would be great.

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Re: 1861 or 1871 look up for John MORGAN born Bridgend 1853
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 11 March 09 16:35 GMT (UK) »
i see from the 1881 census john/harriet have a 1 year old child with them also harriet's sister elizabeth stagg is there
so looking for a marr of harriett stagg/john morgan
i can see harriet in 1871 with her parents william/rachel in neath
but i cannot find a marriage that would fit anywhere?
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Re: 1861 or 1871 look up for John MORGAN born Bridgend 1853
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 11 March 09 16:47 GMT (UK) »
and this is the only one i can find in 1871 that comes close
1871
RG10/5360/77/3.
benjamin morris age 31. b. langham. occ. master draper employing 2 women and 1 man. head.
mary.a.morris age 28. b. cardiff. wife.
ellen bowen age 22. b. cardigan. occ. general servant.
christina.w.neath age 20. b. south shields. occ. drapers asst.
john morgan age 16. b. bridgend, occ. drapers shopman.
living at;293,bute street,cardiff st.marys
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1861 or 1871 look up for John MORGAN born Bridgend 1853
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 March 09 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wozzle

Thanks for the info.  I too assume that Stagg is Harriet's maiden name but cannot find that marriage.

Please, what is the occupation of Harriet's father William in the 1871 census.

Might be the right John Morgan in 1871, as in 1901 census there is a Morris family visiting the Morgans on the night of the census, and in 1871 he is living with Morris family.

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Re: 1861 or 1871 look up for John MORGAN born Bridgend 1853
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 March 09 18:05 GMT (UK) »
here is the full entry for the staggs
1871
RG10/5429/15/24.
william stagg. age 50. b. burbage,wiltshire. occ. general labourer. head.
rachel age 38. b. somerset. wife.
harriet age 14. b. cardiff. occ. domestic servant. daughter.
martha age 11. b.gloucestershire. daughter.
elizabeth age 8. b. neath. daughter.
william age 6. b. ditto. son.
living at;40,bowen street,neath,glamorgan
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1861 or 1871 look up for John MORGAN born Bridgend 1853
« Reply #5 on: Friday 13 March 09 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wozzle

Thanks very much for the info on the Stagg family.

Would be great if could find John Morgan in 1861 as would give his family details, etc.

Thanks again
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Re: 1861 or 1871 look up for John MORGAN born Bridgend 1853
« Reply #6 on: Friday 13 March 09 13:56 GMT (UK) »
this is as good as i can do
as long as he put birthplace down as bridgend
on the 1861 census i can only find 2 john morgans born between 1852-1856
here they are
1861
RG9/4044/4/6.
catherine morgan age 37. b. llansamlet,glamorgan. head(think it says widowed)
thomas age 13. b. camdron,glamorgan. occ. coal miner. son.
david age 10. b. ditto. son.
margaret age 7. b. ditto. daughter.
john age 5. b. bridgend. son.
joseph age 3. b. llantwit fardre. son.
living at;llantwit fardre,glamorgan
reg.dist. cardiff

1861
RG9/4078/40/12.
john morgan age 43. b. bridgend. occ. potter. head.
margaret age 43. b. ditto. wife.
margaret age 12, b, ditto. daughter
mary age 9. b. ditto. daughter.
john age 6. b. ditto. son.
living at;west street,newcastle,glamorgan
reg.dist. bridgend
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1861 or 1871 look up for John MORGAN born Bridgend 1853
« Reply #7 on: Friday 13 March 09 14:08 GMT (UK) »
unfortunately i cannot find either of these families in 1871 to see if john is still with them
so cannot rule either family out
plus although i cannot find them in 1861 census apart from the 2 posted
there are 15 births of a william morgan in bridgend between 1852-1856.
so do not think i can get any further
unless you can find the marriage of john morgan and harriet stagg(and i have looked without success)
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1861 or 1871 look up for John MORGAN born Bridgend 1853
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 March 09 16:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wozzle

Thanks very much for all your help in finding the info on the Morgan and Stagg families.
I will try and find out if any of the people found mean anything, then might know which is the right family.

Cheers
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Angela. :) :)
Wheeler, Purton - Berkshire
Appleton, Cartmell - Lancs
Patterson/Pattison - London/Middx
Witcombe, Lavis, Cox, Ackerman, Cabble - Somerset
Bellamy - London
Luxton - Devon
Landry - Cornwall